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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Yes, I don't want to put our entire offense into the hands of an "unknown quantity" and then hope he "develops". What kind of NFL team talks like that ? They might get a PROVEN performer like Peyton Manning or Vince Young out of a major college program that went to and won major bowl games against big-time schools, but not a guy who had mediocre numbers at I-AA Bama State !

    Why should we risk our future on a huge question mark
    ? (in fact, I think I will start just calling T-Jack that "Question Mark").

    By the way, if we need a QB who can't read a defense, is confused at the line of scrimmage, and fumbles, I heard Culpepper might be available !
    [size=10pt][size=10pt][size=10pt]DOUCHE[/size][/size][/size]

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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    "midgensa" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Yes, I don't want to put our entire offense into the hands of an "unknown quantity" and then hope he "develops". What kind of NFL team talks like that ? They might get a PROVEN performer like Peyton Manning or Vince Young out of a major college program that went to and won major bowl games against big-time schools, but not a guy who had mediocre numbers at I-AA Bama State !

    Why should we risk our future on a huge question mark
    ? (in fact, I think I will start just calling T-Jack that "Question Mark").

    By the way, if we need a QB who can't read a defense, is confused at the line of scrimmage, and fumbles, I heard Culpepper might be available !
    Yeah ... all those proven performers from big-tiem schools are great in the NFL. That Ryan Leaf guy ... great ... and Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Joey Harrington, Cade McNown, Rick Mirer, Todd Marinovich, Jeff George, Chuck Long, Todd Blackledge, Kelly Stouffer and Art Schlicter. All FIRST ROUND picks from BIG-TIME SCHOOLS that played in Bowl Games and such.
    Meanwhile, players like Randall Cunnigham, Brett Favre, Mark Brunell, Marc Bulger, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Jake Delhomme, Tony Romo, Jeff Garcia, Trent Green, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck and Matt Schaub all came out of college with pretty little hype and seem to have made homes just fine (and won a few Super Bowls too boot).
    Don't give me this Big School pooh if you cannot back it up. You want to talk about issues Tarvaris has that is fine, but don't make crap up as if the draft is not a crap shoot and you cannot find good QBs from smaller programs (or at least good QBs that came in the league without much hype). Diamond's in the rough are out there and we have to hope T-Jack is one. If he isn't ... it does not mean that small schools cannot produce ... it just means in this case it did not. Guess I wish we could go back and draft Cade McNown over Daunte since Daunte went to such a crappy school and Cade went to UCLA ... he surely would have gotten us a S.B. win. Douche.
    Great post my friend. And a Douche at the bottom to seal the deal.
    ;D

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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Yes, I don't want to put our entire offense into the hands of an "unknown quantity" and then hope he "develops". What kind of NFL team talks like that ? They might get a PROVEN performer like Peyton Manning or Vince Young out of a major college program that went to and won major bowl games against big-time schools, but not a guy who had mediocre numbers at I-AA Bama State !

    Why should we risk our future on a huge question mark
    ? (in fact, I think I will start just calling T-Jack that "Question Mark").

    By the way, if we need a QB who can't read a defense, is confused at the line of scrimmage, and fumbles, I heard Culpepper might be available !
    Yeah ... all those proven performers from big-tiem schools are great in the NFL. That Ryan Leaf guy ... great ... and Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Joey Harrington, Cade McNown, Rick Mirer, Todd Marinovich, Jeff George, Chuck Long, Todd Blackledge, Kelly Stouffer and Art Schlicter. All FIRST ROUND picks from BIG-TIME SCHOOLS that played in Bowl Games and such.
    Meanwhile, players like Randall Cunnigham, Brett Favre, Mark Brunell, Marc Bulger, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Jake Delhomme, Tony Romo, Jeff Garcia, Trent Green, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck and Matt Schaub all came out of college with pretty little hype and seem to have made homes just fine (and won a few Super Bowls too boot).
    Don't give me this Big School pooh if you cannot back it up. You want to talk about issues Tarvaris has that is fine, but don't make crap up as if the draft is not a crap shoot and you cannot find good QBs from smaller programs (or at least good QBs that came in the league without much hype). Diamond's in the rough are out there and we have to hope T-Jack is one. If he isn't ... it does not mean that small schools cannot produce ... it just means in this case it did not. Guess I wish we could go back and draft Cade McNown over Daunte since Daunte went to such a crappy school and Cade went to UCLA ... he surely would have gotten us a S.B. win. Douche.
    Great post my friend. And a Douche at the bottom to seal the deal.

    ;D

    On a side note, we should have Webby set a rule that the first guy to a set number of Douche replies goes to hell.

    ;D
    Glad someone is jumping on board! I don't know ... I have been around here a while and have definitely had my moments of staying away ... seems like there is so much hate across the boards and often it is mixed with ignorance.
    If all you have is hate that you twist everything into B.S. scenerios to prove a point noone cares to here, then douche seems and appropriate title.

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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    "midgensa" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Yes, I don't want to put our entire offense into the hands of an "unknown quantity" and then hope he "develops". What kind of NFL team talks like that ? They might get a PROVEN performer like Peyton Manning or Vince Young out of a major college program that went to and won major bowl games against big-time schools, but not a guy who had mediocre numbers at I-AA Bama State !

    Why should we risk our future on a huge question mark
    ? (in fact, I think I will start just calling T-Jack that "Question Mark").

    By the way, if we need a QB who can't read a defense, is confused at the line of scrimmage, and fumbles, I heard Culpepper might be available !
    Yeah ... all those proven performers from big-tiem schools are great in the NFL. That Ryan Leaf guy ... great ... and Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Heath Shuler, David Klingler, Andre Ware, Joey Harrington, Cade McNown, Rick Mirer, Todd Marinovich, Jeff George, Chuck Long, Todd Blackledge, Kelly Stouffer and Art Schlicter. All FIRST ROUND picks from BIG-TIME SCHOOLS that played in Bowl Games and such.
    Meanwhile, players like Randall Cunnigham, Brett Favre, Mark Brunell, Marc Bulger, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Jake Delhomme, Tony Romo, Jeff Garcia, Trent Green, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck and Matt Schaub all came out of college with pretty little hype and seem to have made homes just fine (and won a few Super Bowls too boot).
    Don't give me this Big School pooh if you cannot back it up. You want to talk about issues Tarvaris has that is fine, but don't make crap up as if the draft is not a crap shoot and you cannot find good QBs from smaller programs (or at least good QBs that came in the league without much hype). Diamond's in the rough are out there and we have to hope T-Jack is one. If he isn't ... it does not mean that small schools cannot produce ... it just means in this case it did not. Guess I wish we could go back and draft Cade McNown over Daunte since Daunte went to such a crappy school and Cade went to UCLA ... he surely would have gotten us a S.B. win. Douche.
    Great post my friend. And a Douche at the bottom to seal the deal.

    ;D

    On a side note, we should have Webby set a rule that the first guy to a set number of Douche replies goes to hell.

    ;D
    Glad someone is jumping on board! I don't know ... I have been around here a while and have definitely had my moments of staying away ... seems like there is so much hate across the boards and often it is mixed with ignorance.
    If all you have is hate that you twist everything into B.S. scenerios to prove a point noone cares to here, then douche seems and appropriate title.
    Hang in there my friend.
    There are a few haters on here, but not as many as I have seen on other sites.
    ;D
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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    [size=13pt]Vikings believe second-year QB making progress[/size]

    8/14/2007 2:08:09 AM
    By Kevin Seifert

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    Tarvaris Jackson was in mid-sentence late Friday night when the commotion began...

    "If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"

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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth


    I'm excited to see what Tarvaris brings to the offense. It's gonna be fun watching this kid grow into our QB. All you doubters better get on board now and back this guy up. Let our coaches and talent evaluators put this team together. Really tired of hearing all the pooh about getting another old veteran, c'mon ya'll were moving in a different direction, the average age on this team is 25.7, we are young and up and coming. This is going to be a good year. We probably aren't going to the SB this year, but you can bet your parents we are gonna make some noise.

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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    Wildman told me that a couple of the ESPN talking heads (he thought is was PTI) were talking about the number of teams that have veteran QB's starting this year that make them feel comfortable at the QB position was 10 or less.

    I missed it so I did a bit of research (not much mind you) and listed who I think is or will start at the QB position for each team.
    Bolded are the ones that I think could fall into the catagory of "Make Me Comfortable".
    How I determined that catagory was a) They have demonstrated over several years that they can win or b) Have over 5 years starting in the league (not sitting on a bench. For teams like the Raiders/Jags were the competition is still being contested I didn't bold someone like Culpepper or Leftwich.

    Again, not alot of thought put into this but I did find it pretty interesting the number of young kids QB'ing in the NFL today.

    Brady, Tom New England Patriots
    Brees, Drew New Orleans Saints
    Bulger, Marc St. Louis Rams
    Campbell, Jason Washington Redskins
    Croyle, Brodie Kansas City Chiefs
    Culpepper, Daunte Oakland Raiders
    Cutler, Jay Denver Broncos
    Delhomme, Jake Carolina Panthers
    Favre, Brett Green Bay Packers
    Frye, Charlie Cleveland Browns
    Garcia, Jeff Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Garrard, David Jacksonville Jaguars
    Green, Trent Miami Dolphins
    Grossman, Rex Chicago Bears
    Harrington, Joey Atlanta Falcons
    Hasselbeck, Matt Seattle Seahawks
    Huard, Damon Kansas City Chiefs
    Jackson, Tarvaris Minnesota Vikings
    Kitna, Jon Detroit Lions
    Leftwich, Byron Jacksonville Jaguars
    Leinart, Matt Arizona Cardinals
    Losman, J.P. Buffalo Bills
    Manning, Eli New York Giants
    Manning, Peyton Indianapolis Colts
    McCown, Josh Oakland Raiders
    McNabb, Donovan Philadelphia Eagles
    McNair, Steve Baltimore Ravens
    Palmer, Carson Cincinnati Bengals
    Pennington, Chad New York Jets
    Quinn, Brady Cleveland Browns
    Rivers, Philip San Diego Chargers
    Roethlisberger, Ben Pittsburgh Steelers
    Romo, Tony Dallas Cowboys
    Schaub, Matt Houston Texans
    Simms, Chris Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Smith, Alex San Francisco 49ers
    Young, Vince Tennessee Titans

    Again, not alot of thought or research so I am sure a few of you will find some that I missed or think someone else falls into the catagory of comfortable, however, a quick count came to 13 vets starting.


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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Wildman told me that a couple of the ESPN talking heads (he thought is was PTI) were talking about the number of teams that have veteran QB's starting this year that make them feel comfortable at the QB position was 10 or less.

    I missed it so I did a bit of research (not much mind you) and listed who I think is or will start at the QB position for each team.
    Bolded are the ones that I think could fall into the catagory of "Make Me Comfortable".
    How I determined that catagory was a) They have demonstrated over several years that they can win or b) Have over 5 years starting in the league (not sitting on a bench. For teams like the Raiders/Jags were the competition is still being contested I didn't bold someone like Culpepper or Leftwich.

    Again, not alot of thought put into this but I did find it pretty interesting the number of young kids QB'ing in the NFL today.

    Brady, Tom New England Patriots
    Brees, Drew New Orleans Saints
    Bulger, Marc St. Louis Rams
    Campbell, Jason Washington Redskins
    Croyle, Brodie Kansas City Chiefs
    Culpepper, Daunte Oakland Raiders
    Cutler, Jay Denver Broncos
    Delhomme, Jake Carolina Panthers
    Favre, Brett Green Bay Packers
    Frye, Charlie Cleveland Browns
    Garcia, Jeff Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Garrard, David Jacksonville Jaguars
    Green, Trent Miami Dolphins
    Grossman, Rex Chicago Bears
    Harrington, Joey Atlanta Falcons
    Hasselbeck, Matt Seattle Seahawks
    Huard, Damon Kansas City Chiefs
    Jackson, Tarvaris Minnesota Vikings
    Kitna, Jon Detroit Lions
    Leftwich, Byron Jacksonville Jaguars
    Leinart, Matt Arizona Cardinals
    Losman, J.P. Buffalo Bills
    Manning, Eli New York Giants
    Manning, Peyton Indianapolis Colts
    McCown, Josh Oakland Raiders
    McNabb, Donovan Philadelphia Eagles
    McNair, Steve Baltimore Ravens
    Palmer, Carson Cincinnati Bengals
    Pennington, Chad New York Jets
    Quinn, Brady Cleveland Browns
    Rivers, Philip San Diego Chargers
    Roethlisberger, Ben Pittsburgh Steelers
    Romo, Tony Dallas Cowboys
    Schaub, Matt Houston Texans
    Simms, Chris Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Smith, Alex San Francisco 49ers
    Young, Vince Tennessee Titans

    Again, not alot of thought or research so I am sure a few of you will find some that I missed or think someone else falls into the catagory of comfortable, however, a quick count came to 13 vets starting.
    You're insane not to highlight Carson Palmer, especially if you highlight Leftwich.

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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Wildman told me that a couple of the ESPN talking heads (he thought is was PTI) were talking about the number of teams that have veteran QB's starting this year that make them feel comfortable at the QB position was 10 or less.

    I missed it so I did a bit of research (not much mind you) and listed who I think is or will start at the QB position for each team.
    Bolded are the ones that I think could fall into the catagory of "Make Me Comfortable".
    How I determined that catagory was a) They have demonstrated over several years that they can win or b) Have over 5 years starting in the league (not sitting on a bench. For teams like the Raiders/Jags were the competition is still being contested I didn't bold someone like Culpepper or Leftwich.

    Again, not alot of thought put into this but I did find it pretty interesting the number of young kids QB'ing in the NFL today.

    Brady, Tom New England Patriots
    Brees, Drew New Orleans Saints
    Bulger, Marc St. Louis Rams
    Campbell, Jason Washington Redskins
    Croyle, Brodie Kansas City Chiefs
    Culpepper, Daunte Oakland Raiders
    Cutler, Jay Denver Broncos
    Delhomme, Jake Carolina Panthers
    Favre, Brett Green Bay Packers
    Frye, Charlie Cleveland Browns
    Garcia, Jeff Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Garrard, David Jacksonville Jaguars
    Green, Trent Miami Dolphins
    Grossman, Rex Chicago Bears
    Harrington, Joey Atlanta Falcons
    Hasselbeck, Matt Seattle Seahawks
    Huard, Damon Kansas City Chiefs
    Jackson, Tarvaris Minnesota Vikings
    Kitna, Jon Detroit Lions
    Leftwich, Byron Jacksonville Jaguars
    Leinart, Matt Arizona Cardinals
    Losman, J.P. Buffalo Bills
    Manning, Eli New York Giants
    Manning, Peyton Indianapolis Colts
    McCown, Josh Oakland Raiders
    McNabb, Donovan Philadelphia Eagles
    McNair, Steve Baltimore Ravens
    Palmer, Carson Cincinnati Bengals
    Pennington, Chad New York Jets
    Quinn, Brady Cleveland Browns
    Rivers, Philip San Diego Chargers
    Roethlisberger, Ben Pittsburgh Steelers
    Romo, Tony Dallas Cowboys
    Schaub, Matt Houston Texans
    Simms, Chris Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Smith, Alex San Francisco 49ers
    Young, Vince Tennessee Titans

    Again, not alot of thought or research so I am sure a few of you will find some that I missed or think someone else falls into the catagory of comfortable, however, a quick count came to 13 vets starting.
    You're insane not to highlight Carson Palmer, especially if you highlight Leftwich.

    =Z=
    Insane

    Wow.
    We missed you too.
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    Re: Vikings counting on Jackson's growth

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Wildman told me that a couple of the ESPN talking heads (he thought is was PTI) were talking about the number of teams that have veteran QB's starting this year that make them feel comfortable at the QB position was 10 or less.

    I missed it so I did a bit of research (not much mind you) and listed who I think is or will start at the QB position for each team.
    Bolded are the ones that I think could fall into the catagory of "Make Me Comfortable".
    How I determined that catagory was a) They have demonstrated over several years that they can win or b) Have over 5 years starting in the league (not sitting on a bench. For teams like the Raiders/Jags were the competition is still being contested I didn't bold someone like Culpepper or Leftwich.

    Again, not alot of thought put into this but I did find it pretty interesting the number of young kids QB'ing in the NFL today.

    Brady, Tom New England Patriots
    Brees, Drew New Orleans Saints
    Bulger, Marc St. Louis Rams
    Campbell, Jason Washington Redskins
    Croyle, Brodie Kansas City Chiefs
    Culpepper, Daunte Oakland Raiders
    Cutler, Jay Denver Broncos
    Delhomme, Jake Carolina Panthers
    Favre, Brett Green Bay Packers
    Frye, Charlie Cleveland Browns
    Garcia, Jeff Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Garrard, David Jacksonville Jaguars
    Green, Trent Miami Dolphins
    Grossman, Rex Chicago Bears
    Harrington, Joey Atlanta Falcons
    Hasselbeck, Matt Seattle Seahawks
    Huard, Damon Kansas City Chiefs
    Jackson, Tarvaris Minnesota Vikings
    Kitna, Jon Detroit Lions
    Leftwich, Byron Jacksonville Jaguars
    Leinart, Matt Arizona Cardinals
    Losman, J.P. Buffalo Bills
    Manning, Eli New York Giants
    Manning, Peyton Indianapolis Colts
    McCown, Josh Oakland Raiders
    McNabb, Donovan Philadelphia Eagles
    McNair, Steve Baltimore Ravens
    Palmer, Carson Cincinnati Bengals
    Pennington, Chad New York Jets
    Quinn, Brady Cleveland Browns
    Rivers, Philip San Diego Chargers
    Roethlisberger, Ben Pittsburgh Steelers
    Romo, Tony Dallas Cowboys
    Schaub, Matt Houston Texans
    Simms, Chris Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    Smith, Alex San Francisco 49ers
    Young, Vince Tennessee Titans

    Again, not alot of thought or research so I am sure a few of you will find some that I missed or think someone else falls into the catagory of comfortable, however, a quick count came to 13 vets starting.
    You're insane not to highlight Carson Palmer, especially if you highlight Leftwich.
    Insane

    Wow.

    We missed you too.

    ;D
    Carson Palmer is top-5 NFL QB right now.
    Byron Leftwich is in danger of his legs crumbling to dust every time he takes a step.


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