Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 12 of 12
  1. #11
    BleedinPandG is offline Coach
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    969

    Re: Vikings are clicking on all fronts - Timely turnaround for Vikings

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Some very nice reads my friend.
    Thanks.

    Funny how articles like this get no comments now, however, 4-8 weeks ago this stuff would have been littered with all kinds of jibberish.

    Winning solves everything I guess.
    ;D
    Winning does solve a lot.
    I don't hear much about Chiller haters anymore.
    I don't see anymore "Stop the TJack Project" (although I was one of those after the Dallas game).
    It's a totally different story now.
    It's not only winning but it's how they are doing it.
    It's with confidence and devistation.
    That's the kind of football Viking fans want to see.
    Now that they are showing glimpses of superstardom they can all see the improvements and have a lot to look forward to even after the season no matter what happens.

    I always thought there was talent there.
    The only doubt I was having was with TJack.
    I knew he was young but what was bothering me was the timing.
    I've always said how competitive they were even with a bad QB situation.
    Now that the QB is playing much improved, they are showing how competitive they really are.
    That's good becasue it can keep good vets around and attract some in during the off-season.
    There is a reason why Curtis went to the Eagles over the Vikings and it certainly wasn't for money.
    If TJack can continue to step it up other FAs or players on the trading block will want to come to MN.
    Can you imagine, Fitzy or Chad Johnson opposite of Rice?
    I would love to see either one.
    You always make great posts and I agree with most of them.
    Well done.


    One comment though, I don't believe anything hinders this staff (not just the Chiller) from luring quality FA's to the mix.
    They will come if Bryzcheapski (and the rest of the staff) will come off the right bucks to get them here.

    Rationale is take a look at our vets on this team that were brought in as FA's.
    Most, if not all of them are very well respected within the league (i.e. Phat Pat, T-Rich, Hutch, Leber, Doss) and all appear to be very happy here even during the tough times.
    Even though some still won't admit it, this organization is a good one to play for.

    Again, I see no issue with getting a top flight DE (He would play next to the Will-Wall) and a good CB (they would have some gol 'darnit good LB's in front of them) and a quality WR in for thte start of next year.

    I think some of the hesistancy with that plan this year (with respect to bringing in a bunch of FA) was a it was labeled by this organization as a" Developmental Year".
    Why pay for a Vet QB if TJ worked out, why pay for a DE if our DE's worked out, why pay for a quality CB if our young guys worked out ect etc etc.
    Now that we know what we have at all positions (starters and backups alike) I look to see the staff bring in guys to fix the problems we now have as well as putting together another great draft which would then really make us a team to contend with.
    Unfortunately, or fortunately I guess, not all talent can be bought... Curtis was a prime example... he had a better chance to win in Phili for comparable money and took it.
    Having a losing team can put you in a position to be forced to overpay which isn't a good recipe for winning if you have a lot of holes to plug.
    Being a contender, especially one with money, is definitely going to be a draw in the off season...

    My biggest question is what do we need?

    We're very young at QB though a backup is needed...

    If we keep MeMo, we're young and deep at RB (not to mention this is believed the easiest position to draft)

    We're very young at WR and have two okay vets in Wade and Fergy, potential upgrade there but is it really needed?

    Okay across the line but a stud to come in in case of injury could be a good insurance plan.
    At some point we have to acknowledge Birk will retire and start working a replacement but I see that as several years off.

    We're okay at TE with Kleinsauser (pardon the spelling) and the Shia (again with spelling) guy.
    I wouldn't mind seeing us draft a Shockey or Gonzalez type TE but I believe that's what Shia is supposed to be.

    DLine is very young, some pass rushing specialists might come in handy.
    Do what the Giants do and go 4 DEs on passing downs.

    Linebackers are quite young.
    EJ has several good years left and Leber and Greenway are very young.

    DBs are quite young with Griffin and McC.
    Winfield is getting up there but he's not over the hill yet.
    Safeties are okay but not as young as other parts of the team.
    This is probably the biggest weakness on the team but that's to be expected with the young CBs we have.
    They'll be better next season but a solid FA pick up (Bob Sanders anyone??) shut down corner would help...

    Honestly, I just don't see a glaring hole that requires our first pick in the draft or big bucks in FA.
    The nice to haves are a Go to receiver to help the young guys (and TJ) develop, a shut down corner to allow Griffin and McC to get some more time to learn, and a stud DE... I think we are very VERY close to having a championship caliber team not for a one and done type run, but for a long time to come.
    The true measure of a man is what he'd do knowing he'd never be found out.

  2. #12
    Marrdro's Avatar
    Marrdro is offline Beware My Spreadsheet, Bitches!
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Posts
    43,909

    Re: Vikings are clicking on all fronts - Timely turnaround for Vikings

    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Some very nice reads my friend.
    Thanks.

    Funny how articles like this get no comments now, however, 4-8 weeks ago this stuff would have been littered with all kinds of jibberish.

    Winning solves everything I guess.
    ;D
    Winning does solve a lot.
    I don't hear much about Chiller haters anymore.
    I don't see anymore "Stop the TJack Project" (although I was one of those after the Dallas game).
    It's a totally different story now.
    It's not only winning but it's how they are doing it.
    It's with confidence and devistation.
    That's the kind of football Viking fans want to see.
    Now that they are showing glimpses of superstardom they can all see the improvements and have a lot to look forward to even after the season no matter what happens.

    I always thought there was talent there.
    The only doubt I was having was with TJack.
    I knew he was young but what was bothering me was the timing.
    I've always said how competitive they were even with a bad QB situation.
    Now that the QB is playing much improved, they are showing how competitive they really are.
    That's good becasue it can keep good vets around and attract some in during the off-season.
    There is a reason why Curtis went to the Eagles over the Vikings and it certainly wasn't for money.
    If TJack can continue to step it up other FAs or players on the trading block will want to come to MN.
    Can you imagine, Fitzy or Chad Johnson opposite of Rice?
    I would love to see either one.
    You always make great posts and I agree with most of them.
    Well done.


    One comment though, I don't believe anything hinders this staff (not just the Chiller) from luring quality FA's to the mix.
    They will come if Bryzcheapski (and the rest of the staff) will come off the right bucks to get them here.

    Rationale is take a look at our vets on this team that were brought in as FA's.
    Most, if not all of them are very well respected within the league (i.e. Phat Pat, T-Rich, Hutch, Leber, Doss) and all appear to be very happy here even during the tough times.
    Even though some still won't admit it, this organization is a good one to play for.

    Again, I see no issue with getting a top flight DE (He would play next to the Will-Wall) and a good CB (they would have some gol 'darnit good LB's in front of them) and a quality WR in for thte start of next year.

    I think some of the hesistancy with that plan this year (with respect to bringing in a bunch of FA) was a it was labeled by this organization as a" Developmental Year".
    Why pay for a Vet QB if TJ worked out, why pay for a DE if our DE's worked out, why pay for a quality CB if our young guys worked out ect etc etc.
    Now that we know what we have at all positions (starters and backups alike) I look to see the staff bring in guys to fix the problems we now have as well as putting together another great draft which would then really make us a team to contend with.
    Unfortunately, or fortunately I guess, not all talent can be bought... Curtis was a prime example... he had a better chance to win in Phili for comparable money and took it.
    Having a losing team can put you in a position to be forced to overpay which isn't a good recipe for winning if you have a lot of holes to plug.
    Being a contender, especially one with money, is definitely going to be a draw in the off season...

    My biggest question is what do we need?

    We're very young at QB though a backup is needed...

    If we keep MeMo, we're young and deep at RB (not to mention this is believed the easiest position to draft)

    We're very young at WR and have two okay vets in Wade and Fergy, potential upgrade there but is it really needed?

    Okay across the line but a stud to come in in case of injury could be a good insurance plan.
    At some point we have to acknowledge Birk will retire and start working a replacement but I see that as several years off.

    We're okay at TE with Kleinsauser (pardon the spelling) and the Shia (again with spelling) guy.
    I wouldn't mind seeing us draft a Shockey or Gonzalez type TE but I believe that's what Shia is supposed to be.

    DLine is very young, some pass rushing specialists might come in handy.
    Do what the Giants do and go 4 DEs on passing downs.

    Linebackers are quite young.
    EJ has several good years left and Leber and Greenway are very young.

    DBs are quite young with Griffin and McC.
    Winfield is getting up there but he's not over the hill yet.
    Safeties are okay but not as young as other parts of the team.
    This is probably the biggest weakness on the team but that's to be expected with the young CBs we have.
    They'll be better next season but a solid FA pick up (Bob Sanders anyone??) shut down corner would help...

    Honestly, I just don't see a glaring hole that requires our first pick in the draft or big bucks in FA.
    The nice to haves are a Go to receiver to help the young guys (and TJ) develop, a shut down corner to allow Griffin and McC to get some more time to learn, and a stud DE... I think we are very VERY close to having a championship caliber team not for a one and done type run, but for a long time to come.
    Very nice post my friend.
    Just a couple of comments/thoughts.


    No matter how set you are at a position, if someone falls to you in the first and second round you take them (Best Player Available).
    They always provide instant playmakers at positions and give you quality depth.
    We now have the luxury of being pretty set at almost all positions so we would be drafting for depth/future next year.
    That is a great place to be.

    Second, we need a quality Vet at the RDE, WR, OL and CB positions.
    Again, nothing wrong with the guys we have but a top flight vet at those positions would truly make this team a very very good team.

    RDE - Drop Erasmus off the roster.
    He doesn't stay healthy, we have Edwards, Robison, etc as depth/competition to start.

    WR - Keep Rice, Allison, B-wade and drop either Fergy or T-will as necessary.
    My option would be Fergy.
    Add a young guy that is coming out of his first contract, leaving a team that sucked to fit the bill of the deep threat guy.

    CB/S - Keep everybody we have plus this guy or guys.

    OL - Bring in a savy guy who can play C/G and possibly draft a backup T for the eventual degradation of McKinnie.

    QB. - BB and KH just aren't in my plans.
    They might be in the teams, however, I doubt it.
    We lost to many games this year when Jackson went down.
    I look for the Vikes to bring in a guy like Sorgi or someone like that to compete with TJ (for real) and provide depth at this position.
    We have the CAP room and most teams these days, if thier smart, carry two quality QB's no matter what the price.
    Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/josdin00/Vikings/Marrdro_sig.jpg

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 12-22-2007, 08:33 AM
  2. Vikings could join select few in turnaround department
    By singersp in forum Vikings Fan Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-18-2005, 03:27 PM
  3. Efficient Johnson pacing Vikings' turnaround
    By Wiggles67 in forum Vikings Fan Forum
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 12-09-2005, 05:32 AM
  4. Vikings should thank Buffalo for turnaround
    By singersp in forum Vikings Fan Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 12-03-2005, 04:54 PM
  5. Vikings' defense keys turnaround
    By skum in forum Vikings Fan Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-28-2005, 07:42 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •