Thread: Vikings to bring in Luck & RGIII
04-11-2012, 12:18 PM #21
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There were 35 players taken, and out of them, I highlighted 11 players. That is over 30% success in the draft. There may be a couple of players who some may disagree with, such as Loadholt and Cook. But even if you remove them we are still at a 25+% success rate.
Overall I feel like we draft pretty much as well as most other teams. Some years will be good, some won't. But overall it averages out pretty well.
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04-11-2012, 01:03 PM #22
Everyone remembers the poor choices, and everyone remembers the bad choices.
I would like to see us hit on a few more mid to late round picks. I guess in my mind we do not do as well there as I think we should. I think there is more time for some of these players to develop though, so for now I will reserve those types of opinions to the great football minds who are members of PPO.
04-11-2012, 01:06 PM #23
Though I think it is silly to bring in Luck and RG3 as well, I do like the fact that we are planning in case they do not go 1&2.
However, we all know they will go 1&2, so is Spielman thinking about trading up to get one of them? That would take way to much in my opinion.
04-11-2012, 01:55 PM #24
Again, think what you will, but Spielman is making us into the Lions of old. We will be the laughing stock of the NFCN for years to come. Trust me on this.Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.
04-11-2012, 03:10 PM #25
04-11-2012, 04:47 PM #26
Agree with the smokescreen theory.
This is just a way of trying to make teams think we are interested in a QB so maybe CLE or MIA will trade up for Tanehill and we can get a bunch of picks (and still get a OT like Kalil or Reiff.) Don't think it will work but, hey, it's worth a try.
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04-11-2012, 05:25 PM #27
No, this is a GM doing his job. He has an opportunity to evaluate very closely 30 players, per the Rules. Many of these evaluations are not for this Draft, rather, they are merely part of a due diligence process, because, down the line, you may have an opportunity to trade for some of these guys.
I am not the Author of this explanation...just passing on this point made by both Pat Kirwan and Bill Polian, former GMs, on Sirius NFL Radio. Both actually did the same thing, and, gave examples of players they brought in, didn't draft, and traded for later.
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04-11-2012, 05:38 PM #28
That makes sense maxvike.
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04-12-2012, 08:25 AM #29
Loadholt is another one I'd remove from the list. His play for a 2nd round pick has been mediocre & his knack for being flagged even worse.
If you listen to the masses here, they would probably also remove the following 2 players;
Rice: "Mr. One Season" who many fans here claimed only looked good because of Brett Favre.
Edwards: Who many fans here claimed was mediocre & only had good stats because of K-Will, P-Will & JA & needed to keep his pie hole shut.
Removing those 4 puts us at 7 out of 34 or 20%.
Lets say for argument sake that we only remove Loadholt & Cook & use your 25% success rate. Now, while that may look OK, what's important is how many of those 9 remaining players were we able to retain.
4 of those 9 are no longer with the team, meaning only 5 good players out of those 35 or 14% of them are still with the team.
5 players in 5 years doesn't seem that good to me.
For those proponents of us "building thru the draft" & not thru FA, at that rate, how many years will it take us to rebuild & be a competitive team once again if we don't sign anyone good during FA & continue to sign no name players for 1 year deals from the FA foreclosure pool?
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04-13-2012, 07:22 AM #30