Thread: vikings bears post game
12-03-2013, 02:24 PM #41
Dang bleedpurple, someone pee in your Cheerios? Maybe just a bit harsh on a fellow PPOer. It is a bit of a connundrum, but I think teams have to try to win to maintain the integrity of the game. Do you want Peterson to sit out the rest of the games so we have a better chance of losing? Does he not have personal goals and incentives to perform well in every game? Are players not playing for their jobs and livelihoods? I can see playing players down the depth chart to see what we've got once the playoffs are out, but deliberately losing ain't right. And if teams do it, they should be penalized by the league and lose draft position. People can tell if a team is throwing it. I want my team to bust their asses to win everytime they step on the field. The draft isn't the cure all to end all in and of itself- other management and personnel decisions are just as important. Getting a top qb pick isn't iron clad anyway. Plenty of damn good qbs have come in later rounds- probably more than have come in the top one or two picks. And plenty of bad ones have come in the top several picks. I liked beating the frickin' Bears and I hope we beat theRavens Sunday.
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12-03-2013, 02:36 PM #42Ring of Fame
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I was a bit passionate with my comment but it wasn't meant to offend... and to the rest of you.. I think you somewhat missed my point...
I am all for guys like AP, Cassell and the rest of them playing their asses off for the sake of winning and finishing strong... I don't blame them for wanting to win.. I said that in my post in so many words... Additionally, if I was on the team of course I'd play hard and try to win.. Hell I lost 5 straight in fantasy football to end the season.. still made the playoffs but I wouldnt' check out regardless of if my team was in last place.. I'm gonna try and win...
As a fan of my team, I am separating myself from wanting to win and the reality of us needing a Qb badly and missing on one time and time again... If that guy was on the roster then that's different bc then you want him to improve, but I'm tired of bringing in guys past their prime to try and get us over the hump...
So yeah, deep down, I do want us to loose so we can get a better draft pick and get the QB we need. esp, since the playoffs are out of reach and there are quality guys available... back in 2011 that skins win killed our chances of getting a franchise QB or a ransom of draft picks...
12-03-2013, 02:41 PM #43Ring of Fame
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Knowing our FO we could miss on that guy, but atleast we can all be happy and optimistic about that guy for a few years instead of us all being pissed like when Ponder's name was selected.
the draft is no exact science but getting a better pick helps.. Plus, there are currently 3 other teams in front of us that need QB's so we either get the 4th best prospect in the draft or mortgage the future with draft picks to move up 2-3 spots like the skins did... I dont' see good options here.
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12-03-2013, 05:23 PM #46Coordinator
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Picking early in the draft only means your team sucks and the men doing the picking are likely the reason why.
If ownership is incapable of learning from their mistakes or not even able to recognize those mistakes, the franchise is screwed.
Hire a new GM and give him the power to hire and fire the coaching staff.
12-03-2013, 06:31 PM #47
Its starts with the QB.
The way I see it is you have to find a Franchise QB. Some teams lucked out and find him in the 3rd. However that is rare. It's not likely. Forget Brees (top of the 2nd), Wilson and Manning. You want a franchise guy you are better off swinging for the fences as high in the first as possible (im not talking about taking the 8th best QB in the first). It's simply. You can stock a team full of late first round Wrs and succed as long as you have the QB. Look at Greenbay... they have been getting crushed since Rodgers went down. WHy? They have a team full of late round players but without a QB....its all for naught.
12-04-2013, 05:57 AM #48
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12-04-2013, 04:32 PM #50
Things I know are true:
1: Frazier is a terrible Coach.
2: Musgrave is a terrible Coach.
3: Williams is....you get the idea.
4: The Wilf's need to be bought out/replaced. All of them.
5: Christian ponder is NOT the answer. He's not even the question.
6: Adrian Peterson is amazing.
7: Matt Cassell is not the future of the franchise...but he's the best we got right now.
8: Getting Freeman was a waste.
9: I almost cried when Walsh missed that FG.
10: I almost shat when Gould did the same thing.
11: I did a little happy-dance when we beat Chicago.
12: The Packers still suck.