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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    My son was feeling sick last year during a game.
    He pulled his helmet up and blew chunks in the huddle.
    He also stayed in the rest of the on offense and defense without a rest.

    I guess my son is not an overpaid, pampered athlete either; he was playing because he loves football and wanted to be out there with his teammates.
    Just like McKinnie tried to battle through his illness until the coaches finally had enough of how much it affected his game.
    I guess this comes down to your own feelings about being sick, heart, and passion.


    That being said, this is how I feel:

    He should've never let it affect his game, period.
    I am sure he was feeling like a beat person and he may have just wanted out.
    But, he has you put all that crap aside and play.
    The Vikings are paying him a lot of money to more than average.


    Its been well documented in sports athletes who gave their all when thy were either sick or hurt, why should he be different?
    Teams have top notch trainers and access to almost anything.
    Pump the guy with fluids, tell him to stop pouting, and get your butt in there and block.

    What about the wounded soldier who chooses to fight?
    When you're sick there are physical symptoms.
    It's not all in your head.
    You obviously can't just decide that you're not going to be sick anymore.

    Every guy and every illness is different.
    Maybe he could have been close to 100% when he was in there and just needed to put it out of his mind.
    Or maybe his body wasn't working right and his muscles just couldn't function the way they needed to.


    Questioning a guy's heart because he was sick and came out seems a little much to me.
    When the age of the Vikings came to a close, they must have sensed it. Probably, they gathered together one evening, slapped each other on the back and said, "Hey, good job." - Jack Handey [Deep Thoughts]

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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    Go read the article linked:


    ...Weighing all of that, the feeling here is that this deal never goes down. It may be just a bad rumor anyway, but you can bet Allen is out there slugging away, trying to do something to offset the loss of Williams and Petitgout.

    Get's the web site hits though
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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    "Overlord" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    My son was feeling sick last year during a game.
    He pulled his helmet up and blew chunks in the huddle.
    He also stayed in the rest of the on offense and defense without a rest.

    I guess my son is not an overpaid, pampered athlete either; he was playing because he loves football and wanted to be out there with his teammates.
    Just like McKinnie tried to battle through his illness until the coaches finally had enough of how much it affected his game.
    I guess this comes down to your own feelings about being sick, heart, and passion.


    That being said, this is how I feel:

    He should've never let it affect his game, period.
    I am sure he was feeling like a beat person and he may have just wanted out.
    But, he has you put all that crap aside and play.
    The Vikings are paying him a lot of money to more than average.


    Its been well documented in sports athletes who gave their all when thy were either sick or hurt, why should he be different?
    Teams have top notch trainers and access to almost anything.
    Pump the guy with fluids, tell him to stop pouting, and get your butt in there and block.

    What about the wounded soldier who chooses to fight?
    When you're sick there are physical symptoms.
    It's not all in your head.
    You obviously can't just decide that you're not going to be sick anymore.

    Every guy and every illness is different.
    Maybe he could have been close to 100% when he was in there and just needed to put it out of his mind.
    Or maybe his body wasn't working right and his muscles just couldn't function the way they needed to.


    Questioning a guy's heart because he was sick and came out seems a little much to me.
    That's why you have to put it out of your head and play.

    Michael Jordan played in the playoffs with the flu.

    Suck it up and don't be a puss.

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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "Overlord" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    My son was feeling sick last year during a game.
    He pulled his helmet up and blew chunks in the huddle.
    He also stayed in the rest of the on offense and defense without a rest.

    I guess my son is not an overpaid, pampered athlete either; he was playing because he loves football and wanted to be out there with his teammates.
    Just like McKinnie tried to battle through his illness until the coaches finally had enough of how much it affected his game.
    I guess this comes down to your own feelings about being sick, heart, and passion.


    That being said, this is how I feel:

    He should've never let it affect his game, period.
    I am sure he was feeling like a beat person and he may have just wanted out.
    But, he has you put all that crap aside and play.
    The Vikings are paying him a lot of money to more than average.


    Its been well documented in sports athletes who gave their all when thy were either sick or hurt, why should he be different?
    Teams have top notch trainers and access to almost anything.
    Pump the guy with fluids, tell him to stop pouting, and get your butt in there and block.

    What about the wounded soldier who chooses to fight?
    When you're sick there are physical symptoms.
    It's not all in your head.
    You obviously can't just decide that you're not going to be sick anymore.

    Every guy and every illness is different.
    Maybe he could have been close to 100% when he was in there and just needed to put it out of his mind.
    Or maybe his body wasn't working right and his muscles just couldn't function the way they needed to.


    Questioning a guy's heart because he was sick and came out seems a little much to me.
    That's why you have to put it out of your head and play.

    Michael Jordan played in the playoffs with the flu.

    Suck it up and don't be a puss.
    I still can't believe you're making this statement. Either you're kidding to stir up things, or else ... I can't even finish that sentence, to far fetched for logic.

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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    "Overlord" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    My son was feeling sick last year during a game.
    He pulled his helmet up and blew chunks in the huddle.
    He also stayed in the rest of the on offense and defense without a rest.

    I guess my son is not an overpaid, pampered athlete either; he was playing because he loves football and wanted to be out there with his teammates.
    Just like McKinnie tried to battle through his illness until the coaches finally had enough of how much it affected his game.
    I guess this comes down to your own feelings about being sick, heart, and passion.


    That being said, this is how I feel:

    He should've never let it affect his game, period.
    I am sure he was feeling like a beat person and he may have just wanted out.
    But, he has you put all that crap aside and play.
    The Vikings are paying him a lot of money to more than average.


    Its been well documented in sports athletes who gave their all when thy were either sick or hurt, why should he be different?
    Teams have top notch trainers and access to almost anything.
    Pump the guy with fluids, tell him to stop pouting, and get your butt in there and block.

    What about the wounded soldier who chooses to fight?
    When you're sick there are physical symptoms.
    It's not all in your head.
    You obviously can't just decide that you're not going to be sick anymore.

    Every guy and every illness is different.
    Maybe he could have been close to 100% when he was in there and just needed to put it out of his mind.
    Or maybe his body wasn't working right and his muscles just couldn't function the way they needed to.


    Questioning a guy's heart because he was sick and came out seems a little much to me.
    Sick or not sick...it is easy to question his heart...even KC's rookies said he was soft.
    Granted it was training camp scrimmage, but he got schooled down there last week!!!!

    He got paid, now he is laaaaaaiiiiidddd back bro!!!


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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "getyourrollon!" wrote:
    check out what profootballtalk.com has in its rumor mill.
    Better yet, I'll post it...

    VIKES-BUCS TRADE RUMOR MAKES SENSE FOR ONLY ONE TEAM

    Roy Cummings of the Tampa Tribune reports that the Vikings and the Buccaneers are rumored to be involved in trade talks that would send running back Chester Taylor and left tackle Bryant McKinnie to Tampa.

    As the report/rumor goes, Bucs G.M. Bruce Allen is trying to make it happen.
    But we can't imagine the Vikes biting on this one.

    If Taylor goes, who backs up Adrian Peterson?
    More importantly, who replaces "All Day" if his patellar tendon goes bye bye?

    If McKinnie moves, who plays left tackle?
    Ryan Cook?
    Chase Johnson?

    As Sunday night's game between the Eagles and Giants proved, it's critical to have a left tackle who has, at a minimum, the ability to put a hand on the right defensive end.
    (And, by the way, the Vikes eventually play the Giants.)
    Also, McKinnie was signed to a long-term deal in 2006.
    Though trading him now wouldn't create any additional cap burden for 2007, a lot of that $13 million carryover from the Pat Williams extension will likely be devoured if McKinnie is dealt.

    Besides, the Vikings privately defended the decision to give up a bunch of money to McKinnie based on the reality that solid left tackles can be found in one place -- the top ten of the draft.
    When you have one, you never let him go.
    And while McKinnie won't soon be confused with Walter Jones or Orlando Pace, McKinnie is good enough to keep around.

    So while such a trade makes great sense for the Bucs, it makes zero sense for the Vikings.

    Unless Tampa is offering Jeff Garcia.
    And if the Vikes can lure Willie Roaf or Tarik Glenn out of retirement.
    It wouldn't break my heart to see McKinnie go, and CT is expendable if we resign MeMo (although I would like to keep him around).
    What on earth could the Bucs be offering though?
    Seriously?

    EDIT - Instead of trading McKinnie, I would rather install an OL blocking the works and keep him.
    That's just me though...
    May be the Buc are going to give up Williams (hurt), Simms (no spleen) and Alstott (IR) or...... Gruden

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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    McKinnie should man up like Ultra!


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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    "Hawgski" wrote:
    "Overlord" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    My son was feeling sick last year during a game.
    He pulled his helmet up and blew chunks in the huddle.
    He also stayed in the rest of the on offense and defense without a rest.

    I guess my son is not an overpaid, pampered athlete either; he was playing because he loves football and wanted to be out there with his teammates.
    Just like McKinnie tried to battle through his illness until the coaches finally had enough of how much it affected his game.
    I guess this comes down to your own feelings about being sick, heart, and passion.


    That being said, this is how I feel:

    He should've never let it affect his game, period.
    I am sure he was feeling like a beat person and he may have just wanted out.
    But, he has you put all that crap aside and play.
    The Vikings are paying him a lot of money to more than average.


    Its been well documented in sports athletes who gave their all when thy were either sick or hurt, why should he be different?
    Teams have top notch trainers and access to almost anything.
    Pump the guy with fluids, tell him to stop pouting, and get your butt in there and block.

    What about the wounded soldier who chooses to fight?
    When you're sick there are physical symptoms.
    It's not all in your head.
    You obviously can't just decide that you're not going to be sick anymore.

    Every guy and every illness is different.
    Maybe he could have been close to 100% when he was in there and just needed to put it out of his mind.
    Or maybe his body wasn't working right and his muscles just couldn't function the way they needed to.


    Questioning a guy's heart because he was sick and came out seems a little much to me.
    Sick or not sick...it is easy to question his heart...even KC's rookies said he was soft.
    Granted it was training camp scrimmage, but he got schooled down there last week!!!!

    He got paid, now he is laaaaaaiiiiidddd back bro!!!
    Now there's a legit critique. He played bad in that game, and deserve to get called out for keep letting the speed rushers pass him. Even if I'll say that Holcomb could have avoided at least a couple of the sacks if he'd just have stepped up in the pocket.

    Thanks to PPE for the sig.

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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    "cogitans" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "Overlord" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    [quote author=ultravikingfan link=topic=38459.msg648526#msg648526 date=1191331398]
    My son was feeling sick last year during a game.
    He pulled his helmet up and blew chunks in the huddle.
    He also stayed in the rest of the on offense and defense without a rest.

    I guess my son is not an overpaid, pampered athlete either; he was playing because he loves football and wanted to be out there with his teammates.
    Just like McKinnie tried to battle through his illness until the coaches finally had enough of how much it affected his game.
    I guess this comes down to your own feelings about being sick, heart, and passion.


    That being said, this is how I feel:

    He should've never let it affect his game, period.
    I am sure he was feeling like a beat person and he may have just wanted out.
    But, he has you put all that crap aside and play.
    The Vikings are paying him a lot of money to more than average.


    Its been well documented in sports athletes who gave their all when thy were either sick or hurt, why should he be different?
    Teams have top notch trainers and access to almost anything.
    Pump the guy with fluids, tell him to stop pouting, and get your butt in there and block.

    What about the wounded soldier who chooses to fight?
    When you're sick there are physical symptoms.
    It's not all in your head.
    You obviously can't just decide that you're not going to be sick anymore.

    Every guy and every illness is different.
    Maybe he could have been close to 100% when he was in there and just needed to put it out of his mind.
    Or maybe his body wasn't working right and his muscles just couldn't function the way they needed to.


    Questioning a guy's heart because he was sick and came out seems a little much to me.
    That's why you have to put it out of your head and play.

    Michael Jordan played in the playoffs with the flu.

    Suck it up and don't be a puss.
    I still can't believe you're making this statement. Either you're kidding to stir up things, or else ... I can't even finish that sentence, to far fetched for logic.
    [/quote]

    What's wrong with that?

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    Re: Vikings aren't trying to make a trade

    Believe it or not, they have been talking about a possible Vikings-Bucs trade since yesterday evening.
    I wonder if this rumor has any teeth...
    Doubt it, but it is an interesting thing to speculate about...
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

    =Z=

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