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    My updated top 10 big board for the Vikings:

    1) DE Clowney
    2) LB Mack
    3) WR Watkins
    4) QB Manziel
    5) LB CJ Mosley
    6) WR Evans
    7) LB Barr
    8) CB Gilbert
    9) FS Haha Clinton Dix
    10) TE Ebron

    Most of these men do not need explanations, but I know Ebron raises eyebrows. I have gotten to see a lot more of his film, and I'm confident he is absolutely an upgrade from Rudolph, AND it gives us the ability to run 2-TE offensive sets to open up holes for AD.
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    Trade backs are good....if you can get them.

    At #8, the one guy I want above all others is Mack. I'll also be very happy with Watkins or Evans, as I see putting one of them, Patterson, Jennings, Rudolph and Peterson on the field with even Cassel would give opposing defenses nightmares. I might be happy with Clowney, but really see DE as a much, much lesser "need" right now despite Brian Robison's age.

    Failing any of those guys, I'd prefer to trade down and take CJ Mosely if he can play OLB, or Zack Martin with the intention from day one of playing him at LG. The Vikings need an OLB desperately. Option #2, if you can trade down far enough, is to take one of the QBs (preferably before Cleveland's second pick at #26) and then go with Van Noy in the 2nd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewlovs View Post
    My updated top 10 big board for the Vikings:

    1) DE Clowney
    2) LB Mack
    3) WR Watkins
    4) QB Manziel
    5) LB CJ Mosley
    6) WR Evans
    7) LB Barr
    8) CB Gilbert
    9) FS Haha Clinton Dix
    10) TE Ebron

    Most of these men do not need explanations, but I know Ebron raises eyebrows. I have gotten to see a lot more of his film, and I'm confident he is absolutely an upgrade from Rudolph, AND it gives us the ability to run 2-TE offensive sets to open up holes for AD.
    I think Eric Ebron is the next huge TE in the league. Going to put up Gronk/Graham like numbers. Whoever gets him is going to be very happy. I would be surprised to see us go after him because we do have Rudolph (who Ebron is very likely to eclipse IMO) ... and Rudolph is still a good TE ... we have so many other needs I would be surprised to see us go after Ebron.

    Though I definitely think a mid-round TE could be on our radar.

    I think the Vikes board probably looks something like this:

    1. Clowney
    2. Mack
    3. Watkins
    4. Bortles
    5. Evans
    6. Manziel
    7. Bridgewater
    8. Barr
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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    I think Eric Ebron is the next huge TE in the league. Going to put up Gronk/Graham like numbers. Whoever gets him is going to be very happy. I would be surprised to see us go after him because we do have Rudolph (who Ebron is very likely to eclipse IMO) ... and Rudolph is still a good TE ... we have so many other needs I would be surprised to see us go after Ebron.

    Though I definitely think a mid-round TE could be on our radar.

    I think the Vikes board probably looks something like this:

    1. Clowney
    2. Mack
    3. Watkins
    4. Bortles
    5. Evans
    6. Manziel
    7. Bridgewater
    8. Barr
    I have heard that TE Jace Amaro has been labeled as "a WR in a TE's body". I sense that Amaro could be available for us at #40 in Round 2. I don't think we need to draft Ebron at #8 in Round 1. However, if we drafted Amaro in Round 2, and went with a two-tight end formation with AD and our wide receivers, that sounds like an improved passing offense to me (even with Cassel as our QB). Just some thinking outside the box...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikesrgreat2 View Post
    I have heard that TE Jace Amaro has been labeled as "a WR in a TE's body". I sense that Amaro could be available for us at #40 in Round 2. I don't think we need to draft Ebron at #8 in Round 1. However, if we drafted Amaro in Round 2, and went with a two-tight end formation with AD and our wide receivers, that sounds like an improved passing offense to me (even with Cassel as our QB). Just some thinking outside the box...
    I like Amaro alot and I like the kid from Notre Dame alot (Nicklas). But, neither one of them is a real upgrade over Rudolph like Ebron.

    It would be nice to have the weapons ... but there are other needs we should address first at No. 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    I like Amaro alot and I like the kid from Notre Dame alot (Nicklas). But, neither one of them is a real upgrade over Rudolph like Ebron.

    It would be nice to have the weapons ... but there are other needs we should address first at No. 40.
    Zimmer has a reputation for finding good players deep in drafts; in this draft, everyone's chances are improved, so I'm hoping to see some magic on day THREE!

    If we do not go QB, we do need help on our offense to give Cassel a fighting chance; a great TE would go a long way in doing just that. I do not expect us to get Ebron, UNLESS we are avoiding a QB in round 1, Mack and Clowney are long gone, and no one wants to trade with us. Then and only then does Ebron make sense.

    Again, this is my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drewlovs View Post
    Zimmer has a reputation for finding good players deep in drafts; in this draft, everyone's chances are improved, so I'm hoping to see some magic on day THREE!

    If we do not go QB, we do need help on our offense to give Cassel a fighting chance; a great TE would go a long way in doing just that. I do not expect us to get Ebron, UNLESS we are avoiding a QB in round 1, Mack and Clowney are long gone, and no one wants to trade with us. Then and only then does Ebron make sense.

    Again, this is my opinion.
    I still don't think it would make that much sense though. If we are NOT going QB and Clowney and Mack are long gone ... it is very likely that Evans or Watkins is sitting there and they are much more useful weapons than Ebron ... at least on paper. If both receivers, Mack and Clowney are gone ... then it is very likely that we will go QB or trade. There will be alot of people trying to get to that spot and grab either one of the QBs or the three stud offensive lineman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    I still don't think it would make that much sense though. If we are NOT going QB and Clowney and Mack are long gone ... it is very likely that Evans or Watkins is sitting there and they are much more useful weapons than Ebron ... at least on paper. If both receivers, Mack and Clowney are gone ... then it is very likely that we will go QB or trade. There will be alot of people trying to get to that spot and grab either one of the QBs or the three stud offensive lineman.
    I can't really argue with you; but I keep getting the feeling that the TE position is about to explode in importance. More and more, the RB is being used for blocking, and the TE is eating up the outlet passes people like Marshall Faulk were getting; as such, a TE that looks and plays like a over-sized WR will become extremely valuable.

    But if I am wrong about TEs, then it is probably stupid to take Ebron at 8.
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    2014 NFL Draft: Minnesota Vikings Spotlight - CBSSports.com

    Here's a comment that caught my eye while mentioning Yankey as a possible target for the Vikes:
    He isn't an elite prospect but his mass, length (34-inch arms) and experience could be especially intriguing to Turner, who has shown a preference for massive guards in his power-based attack.
    Taking our need to upgrade LG and that comment into perspective, here's my latest guess on what the Vikes' board might look like...considering that there are 7 superstar, "safe" picks in this draft...

    Mack
    Clowney
    Watkins
    Robinson
    Mathews
    Bortles
    Evans
    Aaron Donald
    Barr
    Manziel
    Gilbert

    My guess is we're real big on Mack and Clowney and Bortles and if they are gone we will be more than willing to trade back. Kirwan's latest has us moving back to 16 (and still landing Bortles!!) so Dallas can take Donald. That should net us their 2nd round pick with us giving them our 5th as "change," OR, maybe we'd take their third this year and next year's 2nd...giving us future ammo in case we want to make a big move on a QB next year.
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    my personal big board

    1. Khalil mack
    2. Blake bortles
    3. Mike evans
    4. Clinton-dix
    5. Aaron donald
    6. Cj mosley
    7. Justin gilbert
    8. Xavier su'a-filo
    9. Calvin pryor
    10.ryan shazier

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