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    Re: Vikes Look At Two Kickers & Two Linemen

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    Kluwe neutralized Bush in the season opener by getting terrific hang time and placing the ball perfectly, which allowed his cover guys to get in position.
    "Great hang time," Childress said. "Typically the people that you see lead in that category in terms of returns not coming up the field are teams that can hang the football high and allow their coverage to get down there. Heís doing a tremendous job and heís doing a tremendous job with that directional kicking."
    Kluwe has always possessed a strong leg but the coaching staff wants him to focus on his hang time.

    "Not just taking it and bombing it," Childress said.

    Said special teams coordinator Brian Murphy: "Heís really worked on becoming a hang-time punter. Heís done an excellent job at it. Heís continuing to develop. Thatís what you need. The punter can beat the return team. Hang time is everything. If you give guys a chance to cover with hang time, your unit will be successful and thatís what Chris is allowing us to do. ...
    Kluwe begins season on strong note

    Could've probably made a new thread or dug up the ole Kluwe threads but I thought this was a good place, especially since we were talking hang time alot in this one.

    Long story short, directional kicking, with hang time is the reason our coverage teams are looking better, not that the coverage teams are better.

    ........snicker....... :P
    LMFAO! I love how the coaches are trying to take credit for this. Kluwe has already come out and said the coaching staff made him kick a certain way last year. Plus what does this have to do with kickoffs? Old news IMO.

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    Re: Vikes Look At Two Kickers & Two Linemen

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    Snicker

    Rhys could not even make the team. These guys are toast.

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    Re: Vikes Look At Two Kickers & Two Linemen

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    On a side note, I am still not convinced he was trying to kick it deep in pre-season. Again, how do you look at your coverage teams if they don't have to cover anyone?
    You're probably the only one.

    He publicly apologized for crappy kicking performances. You don't do that if you're just out there trying to hit it 60 yards.

    And why would a guy, who said "He hopes there's room on the roster" for him, not give it 100% during preseason (you know, the only time he'll get a chance).


    As well, I went to both the Seattle and the Broncos game. In particular, I paid close attention to him in warmups. He wasn't even hitting it deep in the endzone then. Now yes, maybe he might not be giving 100% in warmups. But then again, how come when a kicker comes to hit a long fieldgoal, the announcers are always saying something like "He was hitting them from 59 during warmups before the game, ....". You don't hit 59 yard field goals without trying.

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    Re: Vikes Look At Two Kickers & Two Linemen

    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    Yet the facts remain:

    They've brought in kickoff specialists the past few years, none have made the team yet.

    Lloyd wasn't kicking great for us, and even said so himself.

    Funny thing is, If he wasn't "trying" in preseason, you think he would in reguar season right?

    Well:

    Longwell
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    67.5
    Lloyd
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    64.2

    What on earth happened. two 70 yard touchbacks, and two other kicks, which led to a 64.2 average.

    I'll tell you, the other was a 55 yard shank on th eopening kickoff, the other was only 62 yards, both were opening kickoffs.


    Yes, his TB percentage is 50% so far this season, but his terrible kick% is 25%, mediocre kick% is 25%.

    I'll take consistency over an 'everything or nothing' kicker.
    It isn't that they haven't made the team. Its that the team couldn't afford to carry the extra ST player.

    As to his TB %. Did I miss one or two? Looking at the box score I only saw two from him and both were TB's. That equates to 100% to me.
    he's had four kickoffs with the Panthers this year, two were touchbacks, two were bad to mediocre kicks. He's played two games.

    http://www.nfl.com/players/rhyslloyd/gamelogs?id=LLO676464
    Thats what I get for using the Disney Channel for my stats. Thanks.

    Still, all in all, 2 TB's equal 50% How many does Shortwell have?

    Again, I have been pleasantly pleased with the effort so far, but I fear we will see that slip a bit as the year goes on.

    The staff, judging by the two visits, probably agrees with me.
    And I guarantee we'll see Lloyd's TB % slip as well.
    Could be. I need to go look at how many he got last year in the beginning and how many he got towards the end.

    2009

    Again, the staff is still looking my friend. They are still looking. :P
    They can look all they want. Obviously they have not found anyone to be better than LONGwell. Obviously. I know I am right because, well, LONGwell is still doing kickoffs.

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