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    Re: V4L's Gus Frerotte Pass Attempt Breakdown

    Im one of the guys that hasn't seen any throws that Gus has thrown as impressive or ones that Jackson can't do

    He has just a few long passes and Berrian took one to the house on a slant.. Chester took one to the house on a whip route.. And Berrian made a great grab on a severly underthrown ball and wrestled a defender on it to get it down

    He doesn't stretch the field at all like people say and it was clear in the Bucs came when all they had to do was sit in the zones short and get pressure.. There was no way Gus was gonna get away or if he did he wasn't gonna hit them deep

    But we gotta stick to our guns

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    Re: V4L's Gus Frerotte Pass Attempt Breakdown

    "V4L" wrote:
    Im one of the guys that hasn't seen any throws that Gus has thrown as impressive or ones that Jackson can't do

    He has just a few long passes and Berrian took one to the house on a slant.. Chester took one to the house on a whip route.. And Berrian made a great grab on a severly underthrown ball and wrestled a defender on it to get it down

    He doesn't stretch the field at all like people say and it was clear in the Bucs came when all they had to do was sit in the zones short and get pressure.. There was no way Gus was gonna get away or if he did he wasn't gonna hit them deep

    But we gotta stick to our guns
    I give you tons of credit man for thinking TJ is better but realizing Gus is best for the team.

    Gus nailed Berrian in the NO game late. He has some great passes to Shank for TDs. He may not have the arm that TJ has, but his accuracy is better, and he is better at finding the open man.

    During the last three games has he stretched the field? No, but that isn't entirely on him. Berrian has been blanketed, and Rice has been nonexistent. Personally, I hate it when the QB throws a deep ball to a guy who is well covered. How many times has he actually missed someone on a deep route? Maybe twice, and one was to Wade who should not be running deep routes.

    I still contend that Berrian, and therefore Gus, can do damage against softer secondaries. As with the Bucs game, it puzzled me how we didn't connect deep on at least one of their blitzes. Berrian must have had man coverage on some of those. At the same time, the blitz was never fully picked up, allowing Gus to throw the ball downfield. Does TJ make a difference there, not IMO. He tucks to avoid the blitz, loses his timing, and scrambles for 7 yards.
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    Re: V4L's Gus Frerotte Pass Attempt Breakdown

    I do see throws that Gus makes that T-Jack doesn't. Bottom line is neither of them are that good of a QB.
    Gus reads defenses better and definitely goes downfield better than T-Jack. However, Gus cannot run at all and the way our pocket is T-Jack's mobility would be a major plus.
    I am a Gus supporter right now because we simply have found ways to win under him, but a loss at Jacksonville could sway me pretty quickly to give T-Jack one more shot.
    T-Jack plays very tentatively when out there. He looked great in preseason with no weight on his shoulder, and then just looked scared and lost in the regular season.
    I think either way we go, QB is an obvious glaring weakness and we are going to shake our heads multiple times a game wondering what we could be with a real QB.

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    Re: V4L's Gus Frerotte Pass Attempt Breakdown

    How about another idea.
    Do the tandem QB.
    Play Gus in the 1ist half then switch out with TJ.
    TJ does better when substituting in.
    Then if the game is on the line put Gus back in since he is better in that scenerio.

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