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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    Thats what HEnderson often plays when they go into their Tampa-2.
    MLB will drop back almost to safety level sometimes untill it almost turns into a cover 3
    In the Singer 2 defense that is not the case. In that particular formation, both K-Will & P-Wiil are too take their respective guys down low &/or force them to the outside. As that happens, EJ come in with a LB blitz & takes the QB down for a sack if it's a pass or the RB down for the loss if it's a run.

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    we'll have to forward that to Fraizer, mabye' he'll take it into consideration

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    I'm reposting this because I don't think anyone saw it and I'd like some feedback.

    "V" wrote:
    I don't see how taking away a DE and adding a LB improves our pass rush. In the end, you are bringing the same amount of rushers, against the same amount of blockers. Also, The Ravens Defense is a prevent Defense. They don't generate rush, but thier coverage is so good that it works. To improve pass rush on any down, I propose the following.











    Williams







    Sharper
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    Griffin







    Henderson








    Greenway



    Groves

    Robison

    KWill

    PWill

    Edwards

    This allows you to maintain a solid run defense and sport many pass defense packages. You could play Groves standing up or in a 3-point stance, and drop him into coverage either way, switching you into a conventional Cover 2. Blitzing LBs is ok because you still have 4 DBs in coverage. You have to like Henderson's chance of generating pressure here. If they try to double either of the Williamses, we have 3 pass rushers who can take advantage of that.

    I think the formation is beatable with a good TE/Slot receiver, but that was a problem last year anyways.
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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    "V" wrote:
    I'm reposting this because I don't think anyone saw it and I'd like some feedback.

    "V" wrote:
    I don't see how taking away a DE and adding a LB improves our pass rush. In the end, you are bringing the same amount of rushers, against the same amount of blockers. Also, The Ravens Defense is a prevent Defense. They don't generate rush, but thier coverage is so good that it works. To improve pass rush on any down, I propose the following.











    Williams







    Sharper
    Winfield


























    Griffin







    Henderson








    Greenway



    Groves

    Robison

    KWill

    PWill

    Edwards

    This allows you to maintain a solid run defense and sport many pass defense packages. You could play Groves standing up or in a 3-point stance, and drop him into coverage either way, switching you into a conventional Cover 2. Blitzing LBs is ok because you still have 4 DBs in coverage. You have to like Henderson's chance of generating pressure here. If they try to double either of the Williamses, we have 3 pass rushers who can take advantage of that.

    I think the formation is beatable with a good TE/Slot receiver, but that was a problem last year anyways.
    Depends on what the offense has on the field.

    Not sure how you think it would be tough against the run and the pass.
    I would assume they would just audible out and run a draw right at Edwards outside shoulder.
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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    Seems, to some extent, we're saying the same thing differently.
    The whole idea is to keep the offense guessing.
    Whether its with a LB creeping up to the line and then dropping back, or a DE dropping back, and a LB rushing from the other side its pretty interchangable.
    My original idea was that 2 of the 5 LBs would be rushing the passer, and that which 2 rushed on any given down was the surprise...its about equal to blitzing a S, cuz that is who is out, and it brings the total rushers to 5, but I feel a LB has a better chance of getting by a blocker at the line.

    With our S in Tampa2 and our CBs on coverage, the middle looks wide open with all those guys on the DL.
    As for vs. the run, the first thing I saw was right up the gut.
    If they run a draw and our 2 LBs attack, the RB just has to shake and bake through the line and we're F'd.
    Granted, folks don't often get past the Williams, but sometimes, they do get blocked.
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