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    Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    Just thought I'd start a thread for unconventional, defensive schemes.
    Please feel free to add any ideas you've seen around or any experience you may have with old ideas like the 46 ect.



    Here's my latest idea for some surprise twists...3 down lineman, 5 LBs, and 3 secondary.
    The LBs spread out, 2 of them rush the passer on any given down with the other 3 playing the mid zones and the 3 secondary each taking a zone behind the LB zones.
    You rotate the rush so the opponent can't lineup to their advantage.
    The blitzing backers could also bump the WRs on their way in, at the LOS to further throw off the offenses timing.




















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    Usually, EJ stays at home in the middle, in case they do run.
    You could rush Leber and Rufus from the left side on one down, Greenway and Leber inside on the next, and then Rufus and the other speedy outside OLB/DE guy.
    You could bring a guy in like a fourth DL, only to drop him back into coverage and send heat from the other side.
    Most likely, not an every down defense, but some nice options to put pressure on the QB and keep the offense guessing.
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    When Marr see's this thread he is gonna go insane lol

    I belong to the a cowboys site like PPO(PPO is better) and i tried to explain this exact thing to them, the 3-5-3, i dunno if would work for us. We could maybe use it 2 or 3 times a game, just to mess with the QB's head, get him confused as all hell with the blitzes. If we dont get to the QB we are basically eff'd.

    I love the idea though, we just shouldnt use it alot in a game.

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    My 7th grade team could score on that defense... haha Jk looks interesting and like DC said it should only be used once or twice a game


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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    The immediate problem of course, is that you've got linebackers, who aren't as fast as corners, covering receivers.

    I get that Griffin and Winfield would be in coverage, but it seems like you'd have a pretty big area near the sidelines where the coverage would get smoked. Would it be smarter to play a Cover 1 with the corners lined up on receivers? This would basically be like stacking 8 in the box to some degree, but with perhaps more room for disguises.

    Either way, nice creative thinking!

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    How about just running the 3-4 when we get Groves and laws? ;D

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    Yeah, I saw Marr had a very similar idea going, I think I expanded on it somewhat...?
    All in all, it does look a little like the 46, or puts 8 in the box at any rate, so it should be OK against the run too.

    So you're saying put the CBs in man coverage instead of having the 3-3 zone coverage?
    Maybe.
    The S we kept in would have to be able to cover a lot of ground then, and I do really like the idea of our LBs flying in and chipping the WRs while the secondary plays a step back.
    Its still legal to hit them within the five foot line right?
    Against some tougher WRs, maybe its not a fit, but most of the time, a LB is going to have the size and strength to push a WR around some
    ;D
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    I see 400+ yard passing games vs this Defense.

    A fourth DL for coverage is a waste.
    What are they really going to do?

    You are wasting the Williams twins strengths, getting into the backfield.
    With 3 down lineman they are meant to take up a blocker and the LB's make the plays.

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    Given our problem stopping the pass, I doubt that adding another linebacker will work...

    Someone made the point on ESPN radio: "no matter what scheme NFL teams play, 0.5 seconds into the play, it turns into a 4-3". kind of true...

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    Re: Unconventional Defensive Schemes

    The fourth DL dropping back to cover would actually be one of the OLBs.
    So, not a CB, but a better choice than Phat Pat.
    The big question would be can the Williams still be effective in a 3-something?
    They face a lot of double teams as is, so I'm betting they would still get a good share of tackles.


    Here's a different look.
    3-3-3 Tampa2.
    2 S back, 3 CBs on WRs, 3 LBs in short coverage/run support and 3 DL attacking the line.
    It would require your backers to be able to do some decent coverage of the underneath routes and screens, but may provide a nice safety net behind...I don't want to call it a "prevent," cuz the term seems to be a curse, but kind of like that


    I'm with you on the .5 seconds to 4-3...The trick is that the Offense doesn't know who that 4th rusher is or where he's coming from until he's already on the way. ;D
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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