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The two dozen Tice holdovers are an endangered species

BY SEAN JENSEN
Pioneer Press
Article Last Updated: 07/25/2007 12:17:28 AM CDT


When he took over in January 2006, Brad Childress called the Vikings the "plum" of the eight NFL coaching vacancies.

But after his first official news conference, Childress alluded to a drastic makeover of a roster of a team that had just finished 9-7.......

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

  We will see results early this year of Chilli's decisions. I believe we are heading the right way, and will be much improved over last year. In fact we will challenge for the NFCN title.

"V" wrote:

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

Talent alone doesn't win games.
Obviously, since Tice only managed to hit .500.

The problem with the talent that we had on the Vikings when Childress took over is that they did not form a cohesive team.
Individually they were good, but together they were not.
Childress is focused on making a team.
Yes, it means losing some of the players who no longer fit.
But it also means retaining others, while picking up new talent through draft and FA.

I have faith in Coach Childress.

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

Talent alone doesn't win games.
Obviously, since Tice only managed to hit .500.

The problem with the talent that we had on the Vikings when Childress took over is that they did not form a cohesive team.
Individually they were good, but together they were not.
Childress is focused on making a team.
Yes, it means losing some of the players who no longer fit.
But it also means retaining others, while picking up new talent through draft and FA.

I have faith in Coach Childress.

I don't have much faith in Coach Childress.
But, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I am not going to turn in to a Childress basher.
I just think he needs to prove to the fans that he is capable of coaching at this level.
Many have said on this site that he should not be judged after only one season, and that it might take up to three seasons before we can make a educated decision on his ability.
I admit that Zeus and others are right.
One season is not enough to prove yourself as an NFL coach.
Maybe this year he will prove to the Viking faithful that he is capable of coaching at this level.
For the sake of Vikings fans everywhere, I hope he does.

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

Talent alone doesn't win games.
Obviously, since Tice only managed to hit .500.

The problem with the talent that we had on the Vikings when Childress took over is that they did not form a cohesive team.
Individually they were good, but together they were not.
Childress is focused on making a team.
Yes, it means losing some of the players who no longer fit.
But it also means retaining others, while picking up new talent through draft and FA.

I have faith in Coach Childress.

I agree, but admit it, a couple of your favorite players have left town.

"V" wrote:

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

Talent alone doesn't win games.
Obviously, since Tice only managed to hit .500.

The problem with the talent that we had on the Vikings when Childress took over is that they did not form a cohesive team.
Individually they were good, but together they were not.
Childress is focused on making a team.
Yes, it means losing some of the players who no longer fit.
But it also means retaining others, while picking up new talent through draft and FA.

I have faith in Coach Childress.

I agree, but admit it, a couple of your favorite players have left town.

Makes you wonder why Childress called the vikings the "plum" of the eight vacancies if his plan was to revamp the roster.
Probably noted after coming on board that the plum was a bit prunish and wasn't what he thought he was getting.
There was the whole Daunte thing as well that no doubt factored into his plum rating.

"V" wrote:

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

Talent alone doesn't win games.
Obviously, since Tice only managed to hit .500.

The problem with the talent that we had on the Vikings when Childress took over is that they did not form a cohesive team.
Individually they were good, but together they were not.
Childress is focused on making a team.
Yes, it means losing some of the players who no longer fit.
But it also means retaining others, while picking up new talent through draft and FA.

I have faith in Coach Childress.

I agree, but admit it, a couple of your favorite players have left town.

I can admit that.

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

Talent alone doesn't win games.
Obviously, since Tice only managed to hit .500.

The problem with the talent that we had on the Vikings when Childress took over is that they did not form a cohesive team.
Individually they were good, but together they were not.
Childress is focused on making a team.
Yes, it means losing some of the players who no longer fit.
But it also means retaining others, while picking up new talent through draft and FA.

I have faith in Coach Childress.

I agree, but admit it, a couple of your favorite players have left town.

I can admit that.

I'll admit it as well, however, if the team is better for it then I am glad they are gone.
I liken this to the first year or so of when Denny took over as HC.
Bye Joey, bye Kirk, etc etc.

It all worked out for the best, however, we didn't win the big one.

Playoff appearances - 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000,

Again, if it breaks up the mediocre team concept we have had lately then I say "Out with the old.
In with the new" for the betterment of the team and a Superbowl win.

"Marrdro" wrote:

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

"NodakPaul" wrote:

"V" wrote:

Its kind of sad. The general thought was that we had the talent but Tice was too much of a bonehead to make the most of it. I thought we just needed a better coach who could make the most of the already present talent.

Instead Childress rips my team apart. I will blame him until he gets results.

Talent alone doesn't win games.
Obviously, since Tice only managed to hit .500.

The problem with the talent that we had on the Vikings when Childress took over is that they did not form a cohesive team.
Individually they were good, but together they were not.
Childress is focused on making a team.
Yes, it means losing some of the players who no longer fit.
But it also means retaining others, while picking up new talent through draft and FA.

I have faith in Coach Childress.

I agree, but admit it, a couple of your favorite players have left town.

I can admit that.

I'll admit it as well, however, if the team is better for it then I am glad they are gone.
I liken this to the first year or so of when Denny took over as HC.
Bye Joey, bye Kirk, etc etc.

It all worked out for the best, however, we didn't win the big one.

Playoff appearances - 1992, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000,

Again, if it breaks up the mediocre team concept we have had lately then I say "Out with the old.
In with the new" for the betterment of the team and a Superbowl win.

I totally agree. The only problem is, we aren't better yet.

The key word there is "yet."