Thread: Tice, Bennett, and Culpepper

I am not a big Culpepper fan never have been! He turns the ball over, always has most likely always will! D Green knew this when he drafted DC! Culpepper can be and has been a star in this league! Is he playing like one now? NO! Will he this year? God I hope so! Only time will tell.

Onterio "Spleef" was the man! Bennet is only his back-up as far as I am concerned. I think we have a second rate rb, and it shows. Yes he had one good year, well 2 if you count college! He can get yards if not touched, but a shoestring and he's down! Since we insist on running him up the middle, he will not have a great year. (Moe should be the run up the middle man.)Bennet does great in the open field. If they used him outside and for screens I think he would have a good year. None the less, unless our o-line steps up, our running game will not be great or even that good this year.
Anyway, as of right now, this is the team I have to cheer for so I will!!!!!!!!!!!

SKOL VIKES

Do you really want Smith as your featured back? That guy is a disgrace to the organization. The fact that he chooses his extra curricular activities over football just proves that he is not someone you want to be a figurehead for your team. I'm not saying he doesn’t have talent and he has shown that but I'm tired of cheering for thugs, addicts, and criminals. I hope the release him in the off-season and if they are talking about trading Bennett stay away from Ricky Williams as well.

"BlueViking" wrote:

Not sure exactly what you guys are thinking, but, Daunte Culpepper is suffering from the loss of OC Scott Linehan more than anything else. Also, Mike Bennett isn't the answer at RB, even as much as I like his "potential". Might be time to see what Mewelde Moore can do. The receiving corps is as good as it can be, however, far too inconsistent to be as effective as when CC & Moss were starting. Therein lies one other problem, as well - I really don't think that Mike Tice is the answer long-term as HC for the Vikes. The D has been a HUGE disappointment to me as of late and therein lies the REAL problem with the Vikings - Ted Cottrell should NOT be the DC. I think the coaching staff needs to be re-evaluated after this season and perhaps a MAJOR change could come after the '05 season if Tice & Co. fail to make good on the talent we have on this team.

Your wrong Blue DC misses big ol' Matty Birk and any seblence of a ground game the most. Because if you can't run the ball effectively you will never win (see the June Jones adventure in ATL).

"TheViking" wrote:

Do you really want Smith as your featured back? That guy is a disgrace to the organization. The fact that he chooses his extra curricular activities over football just proves that he is not someone you want to be a figurehead for your team. I'm not saying he doesn’t have talent and he has shown that but I'm tired of cheering for thugs, addicts, and criminals. I hope the release him in the off-season and if they are talking about trading Bennett stay away from Ricky Williams as well.

R. Smith a thug, addict, and/or criminal? He is a stand-up guy that was wise in his retirement. Leave the league before his knees were permanently ruined and pursue other endeavors when he was financially stable makes me respect him.

"DefensivePlaymaker" wrote:

Okay, first of all, Tice has got to go. I'm sorry but enough is enough. We have talent on this team, and somehow it just doesn't get put together...which is the head coaches job ultimately. Next, Culpepper is over rated. A lot of people think Culpepper is so great. But he has had the best wide receiver in the game to throw to previously. Now he doesn't and the results are obvious. I mean now they have a better defense but Randy is gone and look at the results. Here's a link to look at his turnovers....

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133263

The guy has had 150 turnovers so far in his career versus 163 touchdowns. That's not that great. True he has good athletic ability, but he doesn't have a real accurate arm, he doesn't make very good decisions, he lacks mental toughness, and doesn't have good pocket presence. You look at quarterbacks like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady for instance. They may not have Culpepper's athletic ability, but they get the job done better than he does, is the bottom line. As for Bennett, yikes, this is a big reason why Tice needs to hit the road. He STILL is starting Bennett?? He's not reliable, typically getting stuffed at the line of scrimmage or doesn't gain much, or losses yards. Once in awhile he'll have a decent run, usually on a screen pass out in the flats. He should be a 3rd down back, or a pass-situtation back and have him come out of the backfield for a dump off pass. He's just not a main starting back. Onterrio was, but he likes pot too much. I think we either need to let Me Moore have a shot at it....or draft a good starter in the draft next year. Bennett just doesn't cut it, even when he is healthy, which is another problem, he rarely is. That's my 10 cents.

You sure that is your 10 cents? Or is it your six cents and you are exagerating?
Culpepper has thrown 129 touchdowns in 75 career starts (A very good total) as well as run for 29 touchdowns for a total of 158 TDs in 75 games (more than two a game accounted for by C-Pep.)
You state 150 turnovers? He has thrown 82 picks (and 8 of those in the last two god awful games) and lost 33 fumbles for a total of 115. That is not an excessively low number by any means, but is also fairly average, not at all that high.
Peyton Manning, by comparison, in 114 career starts has 134 turnovers a fairly comparable number ... and I bet you are not calling him out.
At the same time ... both Manning an Culpepper have a damn near equal QB rating (which you may not understand, but actually is a good measure of a quarterback's effectivness.)
Am I upset that C-Pep has been awful ... yes ... has he been awful in the past and bounced back ... yes ... has he played without and kicked ass without Randy Moss ... yes ... does the loss of Moss hurt ... yes ... do I use too many elipses ... definitely ...
Point is, C-Pep is a good quarterback as anyone who has scouted, watched or played football for a living will tell you, if he does not let his head screw everything up he will be fine ...
We have all seen his problems and want him to fix them, but coming on here and LYING about numbers to try and make him look worse is ridiculous.

Not Robert Smith he is one of the greats. Onterio Smith. in refrenece to this post



"vikesfan353" wrote:

Onterio "Spleef" was the man! Bennet is only his back-up as far as I am concerned.

Calm down it's 2 bad games. It's a NEW team. New receivers new Offensive Cord. I like my gosh give him a game or 2 to adjust to the NEW team. Down with Pep you must have bumped your head!

"TheViking" wrote:

Not Robert Smith he is one of the greats. Onterio Smith. in refrenece to this post



"vikesfan353" wrote:

Onterio "Spleef" was the man! Bennet is only his back-up as far as I am concerned.

Oh, I guess I was so frustrated with his idiotic move that I blocked him from my mind. Yeah, the whizzinator is a fool, I sure wish he didn't f'up and was playing right now though.

"TheViking" wrote:

Do you really want Smith as your featured back? That guy is a disgrace to the organization. The fact that he chooses his extra curricular activities over football just proves that he is not someone you want to be a figurehead for your team. I'm not saying he doesn’t have talent and he has shown that but I'm tired of cheering for thugs, addicts, and criminals. I hope the release him in the off-season and if they are talking about trading Bennett stay away from Ricky Williams as well.

I agree! Was just saying that Bennet was #2! And Spleef "WAS" #1!