just cant believe this guy ever became our head coach to begin with. he was an offensive line coach for god sakes. who cares if he gets along with moss, with no head coaching or even assitant head coacing experience it was a joke of a hire and even more so now to give him another year to be a sub par head coach. we have the talent on defense to be a good defensive teamnot great but good. look at the crap denny green(remeber him?) has here in arizona and they can put up 5 victories, just seams a qualified coach would have had the talent on this team competing not for playoffs but superbowls the past three years. Red its time for you and tice to go. i dont know if i can go through this crap aonther year.