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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "V" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643852#msg643852 date=1190726176]
    It's good to know someone without purple shades on still believes in Tavaris.

    Did anyone read the end of that article? Fitz would be awesome, but trading Taylor or Winfield? That would be a horrible call.
    Got to give to get.
    Taylor is bait, we have to get him some yards this season.
    Moore is a very good 3rd down back, I would keep him.

    TJ did a great job managing in the first game.
    Tried to do too much in the second.
    Now he is injured.

    He needs to get healthy and get back to managing until he is more comfortable with the NFL.
    1. Peterson is a better 3rd down back than Moore.
    2. Did you see Peterson at the end of that game? Exhausted. He needs someone to split carries with.
    3. Let's see ow Bush does now that McAlister is done for the year. The main reason that the Saints offense has struggled is because they did not depend on McAlister enough.
    4. Taylor is the rock that holds this offense together. He will make everyone better, including Peterson, when he gets back in there. Don't take him for granted.

    I have been awful skeptical of Childress, but I have never straight out called for him to be fired. Bad teams can't afford to lose their good players. If Taylor or Winfield are traded then I will salivate over the day that Wilf takes an axe to Chili's head.

    I will say though that it is very unlike Childress to make such a trade.
    Peterson is/will be the franchise back.

    We can hold on to Taylor who I am not discounting at all, but it is more like holding on to a security blnaket than a good idea for the team, when we have needs at other positions.
    I like Taylor a lot, but sooner or later, we need to make a choice.
    That is why I say get him some yards this year and deal him.
    Moore can handle 3rd downs.
    He has a huge yards per carry average right now being the 3rd down guy, 7.1 avg rushing and 7.7 avg receiving.

    I am just saying, that we might try to get something for CT while his value might be high.
    CT is worth keeping...it's Mewelde that will most likely be the odd man out...since his contract expires after this season.
    Just another situtation where we have no leverage!


    I honestly wouldn't mind keeping Taylor.
    I was one of the first people on this site that said that Taylor was worth getting when we signed him.
    I am just saying that we have other areas to fill besides RB, like maybe an OL.
    I don't think that a CT trade is going to get us a OL directly, but we could package a deal to manuver in the draft order with extra picks from a trade.
    Who knows?
    I just want to play out the rest of this season before jumping to the offseason.
    [/quote]

    Sometimes addition by subtraction is a GOOD thing.
    It frees up a roster spot and the money that would go to keeping the player in question.
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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "V" wrote:
    [quote author=snowinapril link=topic=38238.msg643858#msg643858 date=1190726780]
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643852#msg643852 date=1190726176]
    It's good to know someone without purple shades on still believes in Tavaris.

    Did anyone read the end of that article? Fitz would be awesome, but trading Taylor or Winfield? That would be a horrible call.
    Got to give to get.
    Taylor is bait, we have to get him some yards this season.
    Moore is a very good 3rd down back, I would keep him.

    TJ did a great job managing in the first game.
    Tried to do too much in the second.
    Now he is injured.

    He needs to get healthy and get back to managing until he is more comfortable with the NFL.
    1. Peterson is a better 3rd down back than Moore.
    2. Did you see Peterson at the end of that game? Exhausted. He needs someone to split carries with.
    3. Let's see ow Bush does now that McAlister is done for the year. The main reason that the Saints offense has struggled is because they did not depend on McAlister enough.
    4. Taylor is the rock that holds this offense together. He will make everyone better, including Peterson, when he gets back in there. Don't take him for granted.

    I have been awful skeptical of Childress, but I have never straight out called for him to be fired. Bad teams can't afford to lose their good players. If Taylor or Winfield are traded then I will salivate over the day that Wilf takes an axe to Chili's head.

    I will say though that it is very unlike Childress to make such a trade.
    Peterson is/will be the franchise back.

    We can hold on to Taylor who I am not discounting at all, but it is more like holding on to a security blnaket than a good idea for the team, when we have needs at other positions.
    I like Taylor a lot, but sooner or later, we need to make a choice.
    That is why I say get him some yards this year and deal him.
    Moore can handle 3rd downs.
    He has a huge yards per carry average right now being the 3rd down guy, 7.1 avg rushing and 7.7 avg receiving.

    I am just saying, that we might try to get something for CT while his value might be high.
    CT is worth keeping...it's Mewelde that will most likely be the odd man out...since his contract expires after this season.
    Just another situtation where we have no leverage!


    I honestly wouldn't mind keeping Taylor.
    I was one of the first people on this site that said that Taylor was worth getting when we signed him.
    I am just saying that we have other areas to fill besides RB, like maybe an OL.
    I don't think that a CT trade is going to get us a OL directly, but we could package a deal to manuver in the draft order with extra picks from a trade.
    Who knows?
    I just want to play out the rest of this season before jumping to the offseason.
    [/quote]

    Sometimes addition by subtraction is a GOOD thing.
    It frees up a roster spot and the money that would go to keeping the player in question.
    [/quote]
    I think we should keep all three backs because they are all very good. Peterson is obviously not going anywhere, the other two are worth shopping and if someone offers enough (1st round pick) trade em. Memo had the best ypc and the most receptions on the team last year, he is very underrated and would probably be the one to keep.

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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643866#msg643866 date=1190727705]
    [quote author=snowinapril link=topic=38238.msg643858#msg643858 date=1190726780]
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643852#msg643852 date=1190726176]
    It's good to know someone without purple shades on still believes in Tavaris.

    Did anyone read the end of that article? Fitz would be awesome, but trading Taylor or Winfield? That would be a horrible call.
    Got to give to get.
    Taylor is bait, we have to get him some yards this season.
    Moore is a very good 3rd down back, I would keep him.

    TJ did a great job managing in the first game.
    Tried to do too much in the second.
    Now he is injured.

    He needs to get healthy and get back to managing until he is more comfortable with the NFL.
    1. Peterson is a better 3rd down back than Moore.
    2. Did you see Peterson at the end of that game? Exhausted. He needs someone to split carries with.
    3. Let's see ow Bush does now that McAlister is done for the year. The main reason that the Saints offense has struggled is because they did not depend on McAlister enough.
    4. Taylor is the rock that holds this offense together. He will make everyone better, including Peterson, when he gets back in there. Don't take him for granted.

    I have been awful skeptical of Childress, but I have never straight out called for him to be fired. Bad teams can't afford to lose their good players. If Taylor or Winfield are traded then I will salivate over the day that Wilf takes an axe to Chili's head.

    I will say though that it is very unlike Childress to make such a trade.
    Peterson is/will be the franchise back.

    We can hold on to Taylor who I am not discounting at all, but it is more like holding on to a security blnaket than a good idea for the team, when we have needs at other positions.
    I like Taylor a lot, but sooner or later, we need to make a choice.
    That is why I say get him some yards this year and deal him.
    Moore can handle 3rd downs.
    He has a huge yards per carry average right now being the 3rd down guy, 7.1 avg rushing and 7.7 avg receiving.

    I am just saying, that we might try to get something for CT while his value might be high.
    CT is worth keeping...it's Mewelde that will most likely be the odd man out...since his contract expires after this season.
    Just another situtation where we have no leverage!


    I honestly wouldn't mind keeping Taylor.
    I was one of the first people on this site that said that Taylor was worth getting when we signed him.
    I am just saying that we have other areas to fill besides RB, like maybe an OL.
    I don't think that a CT trade is going to get us a OL directly, but we could package a deal to manuver in the draft order with extra picks from a trade.
    Who knows?
    I just want to play out the rest of this season before jumping to the offseason.
    [/quote]

    Sometimes addition by subtraction is a GOOD thing.
    It frees up a roster spot and the money that would go to keeping the player in question.
    [/quote]
    I think we should keep all three backs because they are all very good. Peterson is obviously not going anywhere, the other two are worth shopping and if someone offers enough (1st round pick) trade em. Memo had the best ypc and the most receptions on the team last year, he is very underrated and would probably be the one to keep.
    [/quote]

    We just need to find out which QB can play the most mistake-free ball...and then find one or two WRs that want the ball and are willing to get open to get it thrown to them.
    Then Chilly needs to air it out!
    BANNED OR DEAD...I'LL TAKE EITHER ONE

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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    [quote author=snowinapril link=topic=38238.msg644003#msg644003 date=1190741872]
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643866#msg643866 date=1190727705]
    [quote author=snowinapril link=topic=38238.msg643858#msg643858 date=1190726780]
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643852#msg643852 date=1190726176]
    It's good to know someone without purple shades on still believes in Tavaris.

    Did anyone read the end of that article? Fitz would be awesome, but trading Taylor or Winfield? That would be a horrible call.
    Got to give to get.
    Taylor is bait, we have to get him some yards this season.
    Moore is a very good 3rd down back, I would keep him.

    TJ did a great job managing in the first game.
    Tried to do too much in the second.
    Now he is injured.

    He needs to get healthy and get back to managing until he is more comfortable with the NFL.
    1. Peterson is a better 3rd down back than Moore.
    2. Did you see Peterson at the end of that game? Exhausted. He needs someone to split carries with.
    3. Let's see ow Bush does now that McAlister is done for the year. The main reason that the Saints offense has struggled is because they did not depend on McAlister enough.
    4. Taylor is the rock that holds this offense together. He will make everyone better, including Peterson, when he gets back in there. Don't take him for granted.

    I have been awful skeptical of Childress, but I have never straight out called for him to be fired. Bad teams can't afford to lose their good players. If Taylor or Winfield are traded then I will salivate over the day that Wilf takes an axe to Chili's head.

    I will say though that it is very unlike Childress to make such a trade.
    Peterson is/will be the franchise back.

    We can hold on to Taylor who I am not discounting at all, but it is more like holding on to a security blnaket than a good idea for the team, when we have needs at other positions.
    I like Taylor a lot, but sooner or later, we need to make a choice.
    That is why I say get him some yards this year and deal him.
    Moore can handle 3rd downs.
    He has a huge yards per carry average right now being the 3rd down guy, 7.1 avg rushing and 7.7 avg receiving.

    I am just saying, that we might try to get something for CT while his value might be high.
    CT is worth keeping...it's Mewelde that will most likely be the odd man out...since his contract expires after this season.
    Just another situtation where we have no leverage!


    I honestly wouldn't mind keeping Taylor.
    I was one of the first people on this site that said that Taylor was worth getting when we signed him.
    I am just saying that we have other areas to fill besides RB, like maybe an OL.
    I don't think that a CT trade is going to get us a OL directly, but we could package a deal to manuver in the draft order with extra picks from a trade.
    Who knows?
    I just want to play out the rest of this season before jumping to the offseason.
    [/quote]

    Sometimes addition by subtraction is a GOOD thing.
    It frees up a roster spot and the money that would go to keeping the player in question.
    [/quote]
    I think we should keep all three backs because they are all very good. Peterson is obviously not going anywhere, the other two are worth shopping and if someone offers enough (1st round pick) trade em. Memo had the best ypc and the most receptions on the team last year, he is very underrated and would probably be the one to keep.
    [/quote]

    We just need to find out which QB can play the most mistake-free ball...and then find one or two WRs that want the ball and are willing to get open to get it thrown to them.
    Then Chilly needs to air it out!
    [/quote]
    Why didn't I think of that? duh

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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    [quote author=cajunvike link=topic=38238.msg644004#msg644004 date=1190741949]
    [quote author=snowinapril link=topic=38238.msg644003#msg644003 date=1190741872]
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643866#msg643866 date=1190727705]
    [quote author=snowinapril link=topic=38238.msg643858#msg643858 date=1190726780]
    [quote author=V link=topic=38238.msg643852#msg643852 date=1190726176]
    It's good to know someone without purple shades on still believes in Tavaris.

    Did anyone read the end of that article? Fitz would be awesome, but trading Taylor or Winfield? That would be a horrible call.
    Got to give to get.
    Taylor is bait, we have to get him some yards this season.
    Moore is a very good 3rd down back, I would keep him.

    TJ did a great job managing in the first game.
    Tried to do too much in the second.
    Now he is injured.

    He needs to get healthy and get back to managing until he is more comfortable with the NFL.
    1. Peterson is a better 3rd down back than Moore.
    2. Did you see Peterson at the end of that game? Exhausted. He needs someone to split carries with.
    3. Let's see ow Bush does now that McAlister is done for the year. The main reason that the Saints offense has struggled is because they did not depend on McAlister enough.
    4. Taylor is the rock that holds this offense together. He will make everyone better, including Peterson, when he gets back in there. Don't take him for granted.

    I have been awful skeptical of Childress, but I have never straight out called for him to be fired. Bad teams can't afford to lose their good players. If Taylor or Winfield are traded then I will salivate over the day that Wilf takes an axe to Chili's head.

    I will say though that it is very unlike Childress to make such a trade.
    Peterson is/will be the franchise back.

    We can hold on to Taylor who I am not discounting at all, but it is more like holding on to a security blnaket than a good idea for the team, when we have needs at other positions.
    I like Taylor a lot, but sooner or later, we need to make a choice.
    That is why I say get him some yards this year and deal him.
    Moore can handle 3rd downs.
    He has a huge yards per carry average right now being the 3rd down guy, 7.1 avg rushing and 7.7 avg receiving.

    I am just saying, that we might try to get something for CT while his value might be high.
    CT is worth keeping...it's Mewelde that will most likely be the odd man out...since his contract expires after this season.
    Just another situtation where we have no leverage!


    I honestly wouldn't mind keeping Taylor.
    I was one of the first people on this site that said that Taylor was worth getting when we signed him.
    I am just saying that we have other areas to fill besides RB, like maybe an OL.
    I don't think that a CT trade is going to get us a OL directly, but we could package a deal to manuver in the draft order with extra picks from a trade.
    Who knows?
    I just want to play out the rest of this season before jumping to the offseason.
    [/quote]

    Sometimes addition by subtraction is a GOOD thing.
    It frees up a roster spot and the money that would go to keeping the player in question.
    [/quote]
    I think we should keep all three backs because they are all very good. Peterson is obviously not going anywhere, the other two are worth shopping and if someone offers enough (1st round pick) trade em. Memo had the best ypc and the most receptions on the team last year, he is very underrated and would probably be the one to keep.
    [/quote]

    We just need to find out which QB can play the most mistake-free ball...and then find one or two WRs that want the ball and are willing to get open to get it thrown to them.
    Then Chilly needs to air it out!
    [/quote]
    Why didn't I think of that? duh
    [/quote]

    Because I'M the smart one!
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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    It is difficult not to be discouraged by TJack's performance thus far.
    But, we have to consider that he has limited offensive talent on his side.
    He has some good backs, but he has no help from the receivers.
    Our play calling does nothing to put him in a favorable position.
    Fitzgerald would look great in a Viking uniform.
    I would not give up Winfield for him, but I would consider giving up Chester Taylor.
    I would hate to lose Chet, but if that is what it takes to get one of the top receivers in the league then I say go for it.

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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "vikingivan" wrote:
    It is difficult not to be discouraged by TJack's performance thus far.
    But, we have to consider that he has limited offensive talent on his side.
    He has some good backs, but he has no help from the receivers.
    Our play calling does nothing to put him in a favorable position.
    Fitzgerald would look great in a Viking uniform.
    I would not give up Winfield for him, but I would consider giving up Chester Taylor.
    I would hate to lose Chet, but if that is what it takes to get one of the top receivers in the league then I say go for it.
    I havn't heard anything about Arizona trading Fitzgerald, did I miss something? Plus they have Edgerain James, why would they want Chestor Taylor?

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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "vikingivan" wrote:
    It is difficult not to be discouraged by TJack's performance thus far.
    But, we have to consider that he has limited offensive talent on his side.
    He has some good backs, but he has no help from the receivers.
    Our play calling does nothing to put him in a favorable position.
    Fitzgerald would look great in a Viking uniform.
    I would not give up Winfield for him, but I would consider giving up Chester Taylor.
    I would hate to lose Chet, but if that is what it takes to get one of the top receivers in the league then I say go for it.
    I havn't heard anything about Arizona trading Fitzgerald, did I miss something? Plus they have Edgerain James, why would they want Chestor Taylor?
    I guess Fitz wants out now that their offense is geared towards the run.
    In the last sentence of the article posted the writer states that acquiring Fitzgerald would make the Vikings relevant again.

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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    "vikingivan" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "vikingivan" wrote:
    It is difficult not to be discouraged by TJack's performance thus far.
    But, we have to consider that he has limited offensive talent on his side.
    He has some good backs, but he has no help from the receivers.
    Our play calling does nothing to put him in a favorable position.
    Fitzgerald would look great in a Viking uniform.
    I would not give up Winfield for him, but I would consider giving up Chester Taylor.
    I would hate to lose Chet, but if that is what it takes to get one of the top receivers in the league then I say go for it.
    I havn't heard anything about Arizona trading Fitzgerald, did I miss something? Plus they have Edgerain James, why would they want Chestor Taylor?
    I guess Fitz wants out now that their offense is geared towards the run.
    In the last sentence of the article posted the writer states that acquiring Fitzgerald would make the Vikings relevant again.
    It would certainly give us a true #1 WR...with young guns Rice and TWill in reserve!
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    Re: Theismann thinks Vikings' Tarvaris Jackson will be OK

    I doubt the Cards would trade Fitz straight across for Taylor.
    If they would, then that would be a steal for the Vikings.
    Larry's numbers have not been great this year because Wisenhunt is trying to get his running game going, but Fitz is still a force.
    He would be just what TJack needs to make this offense explosive.

    Skill positions:
    AD
    TJack
    Fitz
    Rice
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    Shiancoe

    Then we just need a whole new offensive line w/ the exception of Hutch and we are set for the next 5 years.
    Rock out with your cock out!!!

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