10-11-2011, 09:27 AM #61
LIke it or not (and I'm begging to think you don't like it as you've pushed back on Ponder since we got him) Ponder and Sully will be playing together for a long time to come.
Might as well get the ball rolling unless of course your happy watching our QB one hop balls to WR's all day long.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
10-11-2011, 09:29 AM #62
10-11-2011, 09:32 AM #63
I could just as easily said let Hutch make the line calls for Ponder like Mangold does for Sanchez and the point would still be the same. Sanchez doesn't make his own line calls so a QB like Ponder could get help and not have to worry about one of the hardest aspects of the game for that position.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
10-11-2011, 09:34 AM #64
10-11-2011, 09:37 AM #65Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
10-11-2011, 09:59 AM #66
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No one is taking away from his performance, but is he not up for criticism? We need 2nd half production from all our players and until we get it everyone, EVERYONE, is up for criticism.I am NOT here to provide good football insight or rational observations. I am an emotional 19 year old Viking fan and I expect you to adjust your expectations from my posts.
10-11-2011, 10:06 AM #67
Problem is that Dnabb isn't holding up his end of the bargain. I keep referring to the swing pass out to Percy. Everyone bit on AD and Percy at the line leaving Percy wide open in the flats with lots of room to run.
Dnabb makes that play and AD's production would go up, instead defenses are daring them to make those plays, all the while crashing down on AD. Doesn't matter how good the OL is or how great AD is. His numbers will go down, again, until they are made to respect even those short little dumboffs.
On a side note, I do like how Musgrove is trying to help in that area. Two weeks ago we saw several end arounds by Percy (stretching the outside) and this week we saw a new wrinkle with a double reverse. Problem is, that won't work all the time. Dnabb has to start making the simplest of throws for this offense to click.
My guess is that Ponder could do a better job dinking and dunking than Dnabb has been.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
10-11-2011, 08:16 PM #68
10-11-2011, 08:53 PM #69
Was a corner turned? Yes and no.
Yes, in the fact that that team believes it can win, and will have a bit more upbeat atmosphere around them again. Losing sucks, and it places a drain on individuals and teams.
No, in the fact that we are no better than we were in the previous losses. It's not like we came out and looked drastically better. I did see some improvements, and I have been seeing some minor improvements each game this year.
McNabb still hurts us. He needs to complete a pass. I don't even care about the deep ones right now, because our line still struggles, but for god's sake when you have time, and a open receiver, throw it to them.
So, this team picked up a win, and I am happy for that. Winning builds confidence. Maybe we can go into Chicago and steal one away from them.
10-11-2011, 09:03 PM #70
By you're own admission, you stated defenses are crashing down on AD in the second half making his numbers go down regardless of how well the OL played. Again that average was a pitiful 2.2 yards average.
So why then would we even think about giving him the ball a shitload of more times in the second half, when that is the result? Doesn't make sense, but that is what fans are clamoring for.
I don't think it's just because McNabb is sucking in the second half. Pretty sure he's sucking in both halves.
If we want to see AD's numbers go up in the 2nd half, there's only 1 way to do it.
No, it's not giving it to him more.
No, it's not dinking & dunking passes into the area of the field where the box is already stacked by defenders.
It's by stretching the field wide and/or deep & actually hitting the receivers enough times until teams start respecting the pass. McNabb is incapable of doing that. We need someone who can.
Once we achieve that, I still don't condone giving it to AD a lot more. The passing & running attack needs to be balanced enough so we keep defenders spread thin.
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