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    Stadium Lawsuit Goes Before Judge

    Vikings Stadium Lawsuit Goes Before Judge

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    I remember that dunce Dayton saying the people have spoken when the stadium bill passed. I remember thinking what the hell is this idiot talking about, they never let it get to a vote. Obviously it would of never happened if people were allowed to vote on it, which they all knew.

    That being said I support building the stadium but not necessarily happy with how it went down.
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    Between this, the pull tab funding debacle, and Wilf's fraud case, I am starting to have serious concerns about whether this will happen at all. If the state pulls out now(willingly or through court order), I'm worried that we won't get another chance and the Vikings will be gone.

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    The whole thing is a scam. The NFL could easily pay for its own stadiums. They could easily pay for a large percentage of multi-use facilities. The NFL as a whole has been ruled a monopoly, and it certainly deserves to be regulated and watched for racketeering activities.

    If the public must contribute, the revenue should come both from the area with the greatest impact and the state as a whole. Having Minneapolis citizens pay a tax is convenient for wealthy suburbanites and outstate fans who are free-loading (in economic terms) off others' contributions.

    The NFL does not allow any team but the Packers to be publicly owned. There is no rule against the stadium being publicly owned. The stadium could be set up as a corporation, and the team owners, governments, and fans can purchase stocks. That would allow fans to put money where there mouths are and pony up dollars for the new stadium with no expectations of ever receiving dividends. Add that to special license plate purchases, and revenue may be generated to make a dent in the bill - especially if it is up front money rather than money loaned from banks with interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minniman View Post
    The whole thing is a scam. The NFL could easily pay for its own stadiums. They could easily pay for a large percentage of multi-use facilities. The NFL as a whole has been ruled a monopoly, and it certainly deserves to be regulated and watched for racketeering activities.

    If the public must contribute, the revenue should come both from the area with the greatest impact and the state as a whole. Having Minneapolis citizens pay a tax is convenient for wealthy suburbanites and outstate fans who are free-loading (in economic terms) off others' contributions.

    The NFL does not allow any team but the Packers to be publicly owned. There is no rule against the stadium being publicly owned. The stadium could be set up as a corporation, and the team owners, governments, and fans can purchase stocks. That would allow fans to put money where there mouths are and pony up dollars for the new stadium with no expectations of ever receiving dividends. Add that to special license plate purchases, and revenue may be generated to make a dent in the bill - especially if it is up front money rather than money loaned from banks with interest.

    Pull tabs? No.
    Lol

    Where has your common sense approach been for the last 8 years or so that this has been rehashed on this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minniman View Post
    If the public must contribute, the revenue should come both from the area with the greatest impact and the state as a whole.

    Thank a smoker.

    They will be paying more towards the stadium than non-smoking Minnesotans.

    1-time tobacco tax yields $30.4M, mostly for Vikings stadium

    1-time tobacco tax yields $30.4M, mostly for Vikings stadium - TwinCities.com

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    smoke em if you got em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minniman View Post
    The whole thing is a scam. The NFL could easily pay for its own stadiums. They could easily pay for a large percentage of multi-use facilities. The NFL as a whole has been ruled a monopoly, and it certainly deserves to be regulated and watched for racketeering activities.

    If the public must contribute, the revenue should come both from the area with the greatest impact and the state as a whole. Having Minneapolis citizens pay a tax is convenient for wealthy suburbanites and outstate fans who are free-loading (in economic terms) off others' contributions.

    The NFL does not allow any team but the Packers to be publicly owned. There is no rule against the stadium being publicly owned. The stadium could be set up as a corporation, and the team owners, governments, and fans can purchase stocks. That would allow fans to put money where there mouths are and pony up dollars for the new stadium with no expectations of ever receiving dividends. Add that to special license plate purchases, and revenue may be generated to make a dent in the bill - especially if it is up front money rather than money loaned from banks with interest.

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    Good thoughts in theory, but ultimately it wouldn't work. Any type of stock option or 'voluntary tax' would never raise the money needed to build a stadium. If people could pick and choose what taxes they pay for, we wouldn't have any public services - it is human nature.

    You make the statement that public revenue must come from both the area that has the greatest impact and the state as a whole. How is that different than the current situation, where the Vikings are paying $477 million towards construction, the state is paying $348 million towards construction and the city of Minneapolis is paying $150 million towards construction. It sounds to me like your statement is already reality.

    As far as us "wealthy suburbanites and outstate fans" free-loading on others contributions, maybe you should look at where the tax money in Minneapolis is coming from. It is a hospitality tax on food, liquor, and downtown lodging. Most of that tax revenue is provided for by those free-loading wealthy suburbanites and outstate fans.

    And fans do have a chance to put their money where their mouth is. Through PSLs and ticket prices, which will go to help pay for part of the private contribution.

    In the end, the public/private contribution is pretty damn fair for all involved. I think that they ciy of minneapolis and the Vikings did a good job planning out their contribution. Of the three parties involved, the state is the one that is having issues holding up their end of the deal.
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