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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

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    WE run so many conservative plays, brad johnson always checks down in the flat, We definitely need to be more aggressive. Im sick and tired of this 150 yds passing crap. Our o line is doing better than before and we need to take shots downfield and run deeper routes with the talent we have at receiver, the best 5 some in the league right now. I cant beleive everyone thinks brad is our savior when he really is just the manager. If Daunte was 100 percent, had the protection that brad is getting now and the defense like it is now, we would easily be a top 10 offense, prolly even top 5. Brad can't play catch up as you saw against the panthers, and Daunte led us down 31-10 last year with 5 minutes in the 3rd quarter to tie the game with the pack 31-31. HE definitely didnt need moss and doesnt now. I think Steve Loney is doing a shittacular job too, he better be gone next year. We have too much talent to have a bears type offense
    I hate six game win streaks too!!

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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

    We need to stop going 3 and out as much as we are, we have to stop punting from inside our 20 and our endzone or it is going to kill us!

    Way to many times we are giving out opponent the ball at mid field or in our territory, and make our D play on a short field. We need to give them more time to rest, and not make them stay on the field as long as they have been. We have been winning and the D is playing great, but if we were not doing these things we would be beating teams easily instead of having to make defensive plays at the end of the game to hang on for wins!

    So as Napo58 said, I am not that happy with our offense either!
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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

    "napo58" wrote:
    WE run so many conservative plays, brad johnson always checks down in the flat, We definitely need to be more aggressive. Im sick and tired of this 150 yds passing crap. Our o line is doing better than before and we need to take shots downfield and run deeper routes with the talent we have at receiver, the best 5 some in the league right now. I cant beleive everyone thinks brad is our savior when he really is just the manager. If Daunte was 100 percent, had the protection that brad is getting now and the defense like it is now, we would easily be a top 10 offense, prolly even top 5. Brad can't play catch up as you saw against the panthers, and Daunte led us down 31-10 last year with 5 minutes in the 3rd quarter to tie the game with the pack 31-31. HE definitely didnt need moss and doesnt now. I think Steve Loney is doing a shittacular job too, he better be gone next year. We have too much talent to have a bears type offense
    Brad can't play catch up as we saw in the Carolina game??? Puhlease!!!

    He came in stone cold...with an offense that hadn't done CRAP with Daunte all day! Fact of the matter is, the defense hadn't done CRAP to give the offense a chance all day...since then Brad has done nothing but WIN...he doesn't need to come from behind...because he doesn't dig himself into huge holes in the first place ala Daunte...plus the Defense isn't giving up huge amounts of points. The bottom line is that we are winning...and as long as we are, I see no problem with our conservative offense...besides, 27 points this past game was more than enough to insure that we wouldn't lose!
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    Conservative offense worked JUST FINE for Baltimore and Tampa Bay when they won their Super Bowls...and I will take one of their championship seasons over our record-setting offensive display in 1998 when we came away with NOTHING!
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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

    I think the offense is capable of playing less conservative if the situation warrants it. During this streak, the offense has done exactly what they need to do and it may be conservative but nobody should be arguing with the results. Until we get in a shootout, I don't think they should change a thing. The importance of not turning the ball over has proved to be far greater than moving the chains every drive.

    And now that I think about it, why are we wasting our time arguing with someone who didn't even watch the game and has Nap Harris as his name and favorite player?

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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

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    no its just that ive watched other games and then this game i saw the stats and tice said he wasnt happy with our offense, i mean we versed the 31st ranked defense, even washington had a better offense than us today. I guess its still the o line and loney that are our handicaps on offense.
    This posts comes after we won how many in a row and all you can do is complain about the Offense?

    And not only that...you did not even watch the fricken game? Wow! I wish I had that kinda insight.

    Hint, before you spout off about how we are playing...try actually watching the game. I have them on DVD and will actually get one for you if you need it.

    "napo58" wrote:
    well tice was upset at our offense, and i didnt see his game so im taking his word. How bad was our o line yesterday?
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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

    tice said that in his conference after the game and can i see the dvd please?

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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

    "napo58" wrote:
    WE run so many conservative plays, brad johnson always checks down in the flat, We definitely need to be more aggressive. Im sick and tired of this 150 yds passing crap. Our o line is doing better than before and we need to take shots downfield and run deeper routes with the talent we have at receiver, the best 5 some in the league right now. I cant beleive everyone thinks brad is our savior when he really is just the manager. If Daunte was 100 percent, had the protection that brad is getting now and the defense like it is now, we would easily be a top 10 offense, prolly even top 5. Brad can't play catch up as you saw against the panthers, and Daunte led us down 31-10 last year with 5 minutes in the 3rd quarter to tie the game with the pack 31-31. HE definitely didnt need moss and doesnt now. I think Steve Loney is doing a shittacular job too, he better be gone next year. We have too much talent to have a bears type offense
    First off, you like Napolean Harris so STFU ... second off ... for the few weeks you have been posting you never have any sort of insight that seems to make any d@amn sense.
    If Daunte was 100 percent ... he is not so who the f*ck cares if he was? Brad can't play catch up? He did a fine job in Lambeau of doing so ... Be aggressive? ... that led to a 2-5 start with 15 turnovers by our franchise player (who I would love back by the way and will welcome with open arms next season) ... you go back to that Madden offense that you like and go back to the hot starts before teams realize how to beat us into the ground and down to 9-7 and 8-8 ... Ill take the EFFECTIVE offense (that by the way is scoring 23.8 ppg as compared to 14.9 points under that other QB) any day of the week with the victories and the shot at the playoffs ... so until we have something to offer that you can back up with anything other than spouting off ... do us all a favor and STFU!

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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

    "napo58" wrote:
    Our o line is doing better than before and we need to take shots downfield
    followed by this: "its still the o line and loney that are our handicaps on offense." :scratch:
    Plus this gem: "and i didnt see his game"

    Were you one of John Kerry's campaign aids? The more you write the more confused I am about what your problem is. I understand wanting more offensive productivity but your complaints beyond that basic concept are ridiculous. And looking at your first post, you seem to question Brad Johnson's abilities but want him to be more agressive. I'm not trying to rag on you but I am just really confused about where you are going with any of this.

    Why can't I learn to just let this kind of stuff go? :banghead:

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    Re: Sick Of our Offense

    midgensa, our defense isnt going to verse ryan fitzpatrick if we make the playoffs, its not going to have turnovers like this every week. We are going to have to be alot more effective on offense because our defense wont beat the seahawks offense being on the field for 45 minutes. We need to strike fear into the defenses and cant afford to have the defense defend short fields like we did yesterday. Steve Loney is too retarded to call a game so tice needs to utilize our wrs and rbs talent to the fullest. Yes, the o line sucks, but we need to spread it to our wr's more, not this dink and dunk to wiggins and kleinsasser crap.

    and I beleive I know how football works more than you do . Throw something at me and Ill tell you.

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