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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    "skum" wrote:
    "Frostbite" wrote:
    It came to mind with all the QB talk on the board about veteran help from the FA market that while top QB availability looks sparce (To Say The Least) some good Safety help will be possible to obtain. What do you guys think about the following guys??

    1. Nate Clements/Bills: This guy would a great pickup but I think even if he tests the market the Bills will really try hard to keep him. He might want to much coin but stranger things have happened.

    2. Ken Hamlin/Seahawks: Was injured for a while but since coming back has shown he's very good. Seahawks will try to keep him I believe but he could slip away from them for other Seahawk needs and Cap room.

    3. Nick Harper/Colts: Granted he's 33....but he could come fairly cheap and should still have a few good years left in him?? I doubt the Colts would spend a lot to keep him either.

    Should the team consider some help at that position??

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    Sorry but, Clemens signed the biggest
    contract ever for a defensive player when he was a free agent last year with the 49ers, how did you miss that, he is also a cornerback not a safety, the same goes for Nick Harper, he was also a free agent last year and signed a contract with the Titans, he is also a cornerback..But we are pretty deep at safety, but both Tank and Doss are free agents, i think that we will draft one, either Kenny Phillips from Miami or a guy like Jonathan Hefney from Tennessee..

    Thanks scum...I wasn't sure about the Info I had. Obviously flawed/wrong. Couldn't remember either deal Harper or Clemens...or positions for some reason??? My bad....Thanks for the corrections...

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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    "Frostbite" wrote:
    It came to mind with all the QB talk on the board about veteran help from the FA market that while top QB availability looks sparce (To Say The Least) some good Safety help will be possible to obtain. What do you guys think about the following guys??

    1. Nate Clements/Bills: This guy would a great pickup but I think even if he tests the market the Bills will really try hard to keep him. He might want to much coin but stranger things have happened.

    2. Ken Hamlin/Seahawks: Was injured for a while but since coming back has shown he's very good. Seahawks will try to keep him I believe but he could slip away from them for other Seahawk needs and Cap room.


    3. Nick Harper/Colts: Granted he's 33....but he could come fairly cheap and should still have a few good years left in him?? I doubt the Colts would spend a lot to keep him either.

    Should the team consider some help at that position??

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    WTF ??? ???
    first off nate clements is on the 49ers and signed a 8 year 80 million dollar contract, and Ken Hamlin is on the Cowboys.
    Do you even watch the NFL?
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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    "sharper42" wrote:
    "Frostbite" wrote:
    It came to mind with all the QB talk on the board about veteran help from the FA market that while top QB availability looks sparce (To Say The Least) some good Safety help will be possible to obtain. What do you guys think about the following guys??

    1. Nate Clements/Bills: This guy would a great pickup but I think even if he tests the market the Bills will really try hard to keep him. He might want to much coin but stranger things have happened.

    2. Ken Hamlin/Seahawks: Was injured for a while but since coming back has shown he's very good. Seahawks will try to keep him I believe but he could slip away from them for other Seahawk needs and Cap room.


    3. Nick Harper/Colts: Granted he's 33....but he could come fairly cheap and should still have a few good years left in him?? I doubt the Colts would spend a lot to keep him either.

    Should the team consider some help at that position??

    Cheers!
    WTF ??? ???
    first off nate clements is on the 49ers and signed a 8 year 80 million dollar contract, and Ken Hamlin is on the Cowboys.
    Do you even watch the NFL?

    Yea...Watch every week...couldn't remember who went where or at what exact position they played. Shoud have researched info first instead of relying on memory alone. It sucks to get old!

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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    Since I posted eroneous information here I will appoligize to everyone and re-phrase the question. Do we need safety help?? Should we look to FA or Draft for help if needed??

    Thanks.

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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    "Potus2028" wrote:
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    Not in free agency...the draft.

    We might get fortunate enough to have Kenny Phillips from "The U" fall into our laps in the middle of the first round.
    If not I'd say we go for the best WR, OL, or CB available, maybe a stud LB?


    In the second we could go any direction, but I like CB Dwight Lowery (9 picks in one season!), who obviously can cover, has decent size and speed, and can return kicks.
    If we could get Phillips and Lowery, expect our pass D to be better within a couple of years if not immediately.


    I've also wondered about possibly moving Winfield to safety since he is such a great tackler and can eat up more field than Sharper or Smith.
    I like the prospect of a defensive backfield with Lowery and Griffin at the corners and Winfield and Phillips at the safety slots.
    Then we keep McCauley, Gordon, Doss, and Williams for depth.

    I know a lot of people are looking for us to draft offense in the upcoming draft, and I certainly see the reasons why.
    However, I like the idea of reloading on defense as our players on that side of the ball are getting older and we already have young explosive and developing players on offense.
    PWill, Winfield, Smith, and Sharper are all getting to the other side of the hill sooner rather than later.
    The only players on offense that may retire any time soon would be Birk, Sauce, and TRich.

    Lets totally revive the Purple People Eaters!
    agreed...if kenny isn't around still in the first round, and we haven't traded our pick for Larry Fitzgerald, i would say get Desean Jackson.
    is that an option? or just something you want to happen. (i mean, i'd like it too)
    That seems to be the talk of the town...considering the Cards will have trouble paying for him and Bolden with Fitz already reaching many milestones for incentives over the next couple years. Word is the Cards will look to trade him away. Minnesota would make total sense. But thats all for another thread lol. It is something i would love to see happen though. TJack to Fitzgerald/TJack to Rice/AD with his 7th TD of the day...ok i'm done for the night haha.

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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    i think we should be fine at saftey, dwight smith has been a playmaker and os only his 6th or 7th year in the league.
    DSharp is getting older but will still be here for another year or two.
    We should just resighn mike doss and possibly draft a saftey in the later rounds
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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    I have been thinking about safety a lot lately in our draft needs. Mike Brown is gone, the bears D falls apart. Sanders is gone, Colts D is terrible, Sanders comes back, they are great. I think we do need to look at drafting a high impact safety and let him learn from Shaper/Smith. I love them both, but I think we need an A#1 Safety, to fix our secondary. Only spot besides DE that we could use someone, IMO. And I think the draft is the way to go there not FA.

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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    I am willing to be that there is not a single FA that is not considered.
    Is he an upgrade for our team/system?
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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    "UTVikfan" wrote:
    I have been thinking about safety a lot lately in our draft needs. Mike Brown is gone, the bears D falls apart. Sanders is gone, Colts D is terrible, Sanders comes back, they are great. I think we do need to look at drafting a high impact safety and let him learn from Shaper/Smith. I love them both, but I think we need an A#1 Safety, to fix our secondary. Only spot besides DE that we could use someone, IMO. And I think the draft is the way to go there not FA.
    You think we need another DE?

    We've used first round draft picks on both Udeze & James (James has been out of the picture lately, not back from his injury, but Udeze is playing well).
    Aside from that we have Salt & Pepper who lead the team in sacks (Brian Robinson & Ray Edwards) they are both young (2nd year & rookie) and will continue to get better.
    I'm a Jayme Mitchell fan, if it wasn't for Edwards & Robinson coming along so well, he'd be getting much more snaps, he's also a young player with a lot of potential.

    I'm not worried about that position.


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    Re: Should We Consider FA help at Safety 2008?

    "UTVikfan" wrote:
    I have been thinking about safety a lot lately in our draft needs. Mike Brown is gone, the bears D falls apart. Sanders is gone, Colts D is terrible, Sanders comes back, they are great. I think we do need to look at drafting a high impact safety and let him learn from Shaper/Smith. I love them both, but I think we need an A#1 Safety, to fix our secondary. Only spot besides DE that we could use someone, IMO. And I think the draft is the way to go there not FA.

    I think we are set at safety for a couple more years. We need a dominant pass rusher. Somebody that wreaks havoc everyweek and forces other teams to gameplan for him every week. This would allow us to rush 4 effectively, cause pressure and make our pass defense better. We have great depth on the d-line, but we still need that big-time pass rusher.

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