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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    I think both Ray Edwards and Brian Robison are good players. I think Robison would rack up more sacks than Edwards if he was starting, but I'm not sure that he would hold up against the run better than Edwards.

    To me, Brian Robison is the best fit at the right defensive end position. His pass rushing skills are superb and he even looks faster than Jared Allen around the edge. Robison definitely has the potentials to have a double digit sack season and we are lucky to have such a great player as a backup.

    Maybe we could use him as a linebacker. He played as a linebacker in college and high school. He has the speed and quickness. Plus, I think he looks more like a big linebacker than a defensive end. I don't know how good he is at tackling in space, but it's worth a try. Many experts projected him as a linebacker when he came out of college.
    He was a track star (shot put) at Texas as well as a standout football player. His legs are as thick as tree trunks. I've said since the day we drafted him that this guy will be a stud.

    I agree about him being a better fit at RE, but I think he'll be great at LE. Personally I'd like to see Robison get more playing time over Edwards, but it's nice to have too much talent at DE for once.
    I agree with pretty much everything you said there.

    I'm just going to expand upon it a little bit. Because I can.

    Robison is a phenomenal athlete, as C Mac D said, he was a standout athlete at Texas. He was the Big 12 shot put champion in 2004, finished second at NCAA Nationals in 2006, he only lost by 2 inches, I think.

    The guy is explosive, to say the least. At the combine he covered the first 10 yards of his 40 in 1.49 seconds. That's faster than Elvis Dumervil, Jared Allen, Lamarr Woodley, and Will Smith. That's 4 of the top 5 sack leaders in 2009, if I could find Dwight Freeney's 10 yard split it would probably be faster than that too.

    That's just defensive ends/linebackers, his 10-yd split is also faster than: DeSean Jackson, and Joseph Addai. It's also only 2/100ths of a second slower than his teammate Percy Harvin and division rival Johnny Knox.

    He also recorded a vertical jump of 40.5 inches, better than Sidney Rice and Adrian Peterson(damn, we drafted some athletes in 2007.) Remember Jarron Gilbert? The guy who gave the athlete-appreciative demographic of the internet a collective hard-on when he jumped out of the pool? 35.5 inches. Robison puts him to shame.

    Robison put up 27 bench reps at his pro-day. That's only one less than Joe Thomas, and three more than Phil Loadholt, and above average for interior offensive linemen and defensive tackles, who weigh 40-50 pounds more than Robison, at minimum.

    I guess his combination of raw explosiveness and strength explains his ability to chuck a 16 pound ball nearly 70 feet through the air. 66'5.25" to be precise, a throw which would have placed him in the Top 10 at the Beijing Olympics.

    So we have an Olympic caliber shot putter, with NFL pass rush skills, and a quicker burst than most wide receivers, running backs, and defensive backs, sitting on the bench. McKinnie isn't the only OT with slow feet in the NFL, and he's on the left side of the line... imagine what a guy with Robison's speed could do against some RTs?

    Edwards is a very good player, recording 8 sacks in 2009, but I can't help to think that Robison would have had more, a lot more. But can he stop the run at 6'3" 260? A related question is, does it matter? We've been a historically great rushing defense with and without Ray Edwards, would Robison be that much of a downgrade against the run to negate his potential impact as a pass rusher? - I seriously doubt it.
    Good stuff, just one minor correction 44" was Rice's vert at the combine... and that vert is said to now be exceeding 50"

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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    44" was Rice's vert at the combine... and that vert is said to now be exceeding 50"
    Sidney has mad hoops, dawg. That's incredible! No, I take that back. For a little 5'10" guy with short arms, it's incredible. For a guy at 6'4" with super long arms, it's ridicules.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Sidney Rice makes the biggest (reliable) target for a quarterback in the NFL.

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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

    HEY wrote:
    kspurplepride wrote:
    44" was Rice's vert at the combine... and that vert is said to now be exceeding 50"
    Sidney has mad hoops, dawg. That's incredible! No, I take that back. For a little 5'10" guy with short arms, it's incredible. For a guy at 6'4" with super long arms, it's ridicules.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Sidney Rice makes the biggest (reliable) target for a quarterback in the NFL.
    He's up there, but Fitzgerald still wins that contest.

    If Rice had a bit more speed, he'd be truly unstoppable.

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