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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

    Im not sure really

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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    I think both Ray Edwards and Brian Robison are good players. I think Robison would rack up more sacks than Edwards if he was starting, but I'm not sure that he would hold up against the run better than Edwards.

    To me, Brian Robison is the best fit at the right defensive end position. His pass rushing skills are superb and he even looks faster than Jared Allen around the edge. Robison definitely has the potentials to have a double digit sack season and we are lucky to have such a great player as a backup.

    Maybe we could use him as a linebacker. He played as a linebacker in college and high school. He has the speed and quickness. Plus, I think he looks more like a big linebacker than a defensive end. I don't know how good he is at tackling in space, but it's worth a try. Many experts projected him as a linebacker when he came out of college.
    He was a track star (shot put) at Texas as well as a standout football player. His legs are as thick as tree trunks. I've said since the day we drafted him that this guy will be a stud.

    I agree about him being a better fit at RE, but I think he'll be great at LE. Personally I'd like to see Robison get more playing time over Edwards, but it's nice to have too much talent at DE for once.
    I agree with pretty much everything you said there.

    I'm just going to expand upon it a little bit. Because I can.

    Robison is a phenomenal athlete, as C Mac D said, he was a standout athlete at Texas. He was the Big 12 shot put champion in 2004, finished second at NCAA Nationals in 2006, he only lost by 2 inches, I think.

    The guy is explosive, to say the least. At the combine he covered the first 10 yards of his 40 in 1.49 seconds. That's faster than Elvis Dumervil, Jared Allen, Lamarr Woodley, and Will Smith. That's 4 of the top 5 sack leaders in 2009, if I could find Dwight Freeney's 10 yard split it would probably be faster than that too.

    That's just defensive ends/linebackers, his 10-yd split is also faster than: DeSean Jackson, and Joseph Addai. It's also only 2/100ths of a second slower than his teammate Percy Harvin and division rival Johnny Knox.

    He also recorded a vertical jump of 40.5 inches, better than Sidney Rice and Adrian Peterson(damn, we drafted some athletes in 2007.) Remember Jarron Gilbert? The guy who gave the athlete-appreciative demographic of the internet a collective hard-on when he jumped out of the pool? 35.5 inches. Robison puts him to shame.

    Robison put up 27 bench reps at his pro-day. That's only one less than Joe Thomas, and three more than Phil Loadholt, and above average for interior offensive linemen and defensive tackles, who weigh 40-50 pounds more than Robison, at minimum.

    I guess his combination of raw explosiveness and strength explains his ability to chuck a 16 pound ball nearly 70 feet through the air. 66'5.25" to be precise, a throw which would have placed him in the Top 10 at the Beijing Olympics.

    So we have an Olympic caliber shot putter, with NFL pass rush skills, and a quicker burst than most wide receivers, running backs, and defensive backs, sitting on the bench. McKinnie isn't the only OT with slow feet in the NFL, and he's on the left side of the line... imagine what a guy with Robison's speed could do against some RTs?

    Edwards is a very good player, recording 8 sacks in 2009, but I can't help to think that Robison would have had more, a lot more. But can he stop the run at 6'3" 260? A related question is, does it matter? We've been a historically great rushing defense with and without Ray Edwards, would Robison be that much of a downgrade against the run to negate his potential impact as a pass rusher? - I seriously doubt it.
    Mr. Anderson, I really enjoyed reading your post. I thought I knew a lot about Brian Robison, but you put me to shame. Nice to see someone with the same kind of interest.

    I didn't read as much into his physical test as you did, but I knew he had in incredible burst and vertical leap. I think he ran a 4.40 when he started playing in college. When talking about pure speed around the corner for a guy over 260 pounds, Brian Robison got to be one of the best in the NFL.

    The 2007 Draft may be the Vikings' best draft ever.

    PS: From all the post I've read, you seem to know more about Brian Robison than anyone else on PurplePride.org.

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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

    Thanks HEY, I had to look up some of the numbers, but I was a shot putter and discus thrower myself, so I was really excited when we drafted Robison. Whose college track and field career I followed a bit.

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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    Im not sure really

    Hahahaha. that made me laugh. After Mr. Anderson's huge post then that.

    I would much rather have Robison than Edwards, I've always thought that. He just seems like he has so much more potential, and his number is awesome. like a backwards allen.
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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    Seems like having #69 on one side of the line and #96 on the other... just makes sense.
    That actually confuses the piss out of me when they are in on the same plays.. Otherwise, I'm ok with either Edwards or Robison.
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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    Seems like having #69 on one side of the line and #96 on the other... just makes sense.
    That actually confuses the piss out of me when they are in on the same plays.. Otherwise, I'm ok with either Edwards or Robison.
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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

    Edwards just got a first round tender:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/ray-edwards-gets-first-round-tender/

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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

    C Mac D wrote:
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    Seems like having #69 on one side of the line and #96 on the other... just makes sense.
    That actually confuses the piss out of me when they are in on the same plays.. Otherwise, I'm ok with either Edwards or Robison.
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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    I dont like the idea of Edwards being replaced- by anyone. He has done well and in my opinion and he wants to stay here. I also think Robison is a decent backup and would like it to stay that way.
    I could be wrong- but doesnt Robison get injured alot? I do remember seeing him on the injury list often!
    http://www.vikings.com/team/injury-report.html

    He wasn't on there once last season... Ray Edwards however was on there a couple times.
    ok my bad....

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    Re:Should Ray Edwards make way for Robison?

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    Edwards just got a first round tender:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/ray-edwards-gets-first-round-tender/
    Interesting, but not surprising. There was some talk about this for a few weeks ago.

    This means that if another team makes a contract offer to a player with a first-round tender, in this case Ray Edwards, Vikings have seven days to match it, or they will receive a first-round draft pick as compensation.

    I like Ray Edwards, but the funny thing is that I almost wish someone else matches the tender. The loss of Edwards will not be a big drop-off considering we have a young Brian Robison ready to step up.

    Plus, I wouldn't mind having another draft pick in the first round. Imaging the Vikings drafting Jared Odrick AND Taylor Mays. :woohoo: I would jump through the roof.

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