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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    I was really down on the guy and vocal about it.

    But I am happy to see that he has made the adjustments necessary to become a threat and help us win.

    That's what football is about...adjustments!

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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "singersp" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    I think the Shank is overpaid and should be cut crowd is gone now
    I've definitely shut the hell up about it... but at the time, he was playing like crap.

    Oh yah, he was bugging me too

    I guess I usually roll with the "give them time" crowd
    I got upset about Shaincoe's playing when Jackson got benched... I blamed it on him pretty much.

    If he had caught that TD (against the Colts I think?), I don't think Jackson would have been benched.

    I think things have worked out nicely though... him and Jackson both were great today.
    That Shiancoe "Hate" thread started long before the Colts game.

    08/11/2008
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46996.0
    It's only fair to make a list of offenders:

    "Schutz" wrote:
    I believe the article should have been named "Viking's TE Shiancoe hopes new hands come in mail soon".
    "Garland" wrote:
    Was he ever "On track"
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    I don't want to hear the word "tries," I just want him to do what a TE, that isn't one dimensional, is suppose to do.
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    We need a new TE. Period.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...That is the kind of increase that you would like to see from someone going from a reserve on one team to a starter on another team with a big pay increase.
    "PurplePowerPunch" wrote:
    ....They are right here. Too many mistakes from a TE that signed a 18.5 million dollar contract. He's not worth it at all!!! >
    "C" wrote:
    He's just not a good TE... plain and simple.
    "MaxVike" wrote:
    ...Not sure where they saw his potential; I'm among the yutz's who didn't see it either.
    I was merely trying to represent their only possible argument...not sure why.
    And, for the record...I was quite adamant on this board pre-draft that we needed to address the TE position, just in case Shiancoe is as shitty this year as last
    ;D...and, yes, I think they made a bad hire.
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    ...You say we want him to run down the field, catch passes and hurdle like wiggy, where as most fans would settle with running down the field and catching passes. Which doesn't seem like were asking too much.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I expect drops. He simply is not that good. However, he does fit the scheme.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...One dimensional TE's are a dime a dozen.
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    ...If we wanted a pass catcher, we would have stuck with Wiggins.
    He was able to get open, and he caught a lot of balls, and sometimes he would hurdle someone for fun.
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    ....Most of the people defending Shank are saying that his mediocre ability is okay for our team.
    That's fine, but it doesn't help take him out of the wasted signing category.

    And its fine to keep the faith.
    Admirable even.
    Just not much of an argument.
    "C" wrote:
    I'd rather go into the season with Sauce and Mills...
    "V" wrote:
    ...If I'm a defense, I'm not worried about Shank at all.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I have no idea.
    I was puzzled over the signing on day one and still am.

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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    Lets not forget that some of us on here supported the guy from the git go and attributed alot of his ineffectiveness to familiarity with the scheme, poor play at the QB positions along with the biggest issue, having to stay in alot to help out a shitty OL.

    Funny thing, his numbers were huge and our OL looked like shit.
    Anyone but me see the correlation?

    I'm in a "Fire the OL coach" mood again today.
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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=49711.msg883087#msg883087 date=1229928832]
    I think the Shank is overpaid and should be cut crowd is gone now
    I've definitely shut the hell up about it... but at the time, he was playing like crap.

    Oh yah, he was bugging me too

    I guess I usually roll with the "give them time" crowd
    I got upset about Shaincoe's playing when Jackson got benched... I blamed it on him pretty much.

    If he had caught that TD (against the Colts I think?), I don't think Jackson would have been benched.

    I think things have worked out nicely though... him and Jackson both were great today.
    That Shiancoe "Hate" thread started long before the Colts game.

    08/11/2008
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46996.0
    It's only fair to make a list of offenders:

    "Schutz" wrote:
    I believe the article should have been named "Viking's TE Shiancoe hopes new hands come in mail soon".
    "Garland" wrote:
    Was he ever "On track"
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    I don't want to hear the word "tries," I just want him to do what a TE, that isn't one dimensional, is suppose to do.
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    We need a new TE. Period.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...That is the kind of increase that you would like to see from someone going from a reserve on one team to a starter on another team with a big pay increase.
    "PurplePowerPunch" wrote:
    ....They are right here. Too many mistakes from a TE that signed a 18.5 million dollar contract. He's not worth it at all!!! >
    "C" wrote:
    He's just not a good TE... plain and simple.
    "MaxVike" wrote:
    ...Not sure where they saw his potential; I'm among the yutz's who didn't see it either.
    I was merely trying to represent their only possible argument...not sure why.
    And, for the record...I was quite adamant on this board pre-draft that we needed to address the TE position, just in case Shiancoe is as shitty this year as last
    ;D...and, yes, I think they made a bad hire.
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    ...You say we want him to run down the field, catch passes and hurdle like wiggy, where as most fans would settle with running down the field and catching passes. Which doesn't seem like were asking too much.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I expect drops. He simply is not that good. However, he does fit the scheme.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...One dimensional TE's are a dime a dozen.
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    ...If we wanted a pass catcher, we would have stuck with Wiggins.
    He was able to get open, and he caught a lot of balls, and sometimes he would hurdle someone for fun.
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    ....Most of the people defending Shank are saying that his mediocre ability is okay for our team.
    That's fine, but it doesn't help take him out of the wasted signing category.

    And its fine to keep the faith.
    Admirable even.
    Just not much of an argument.
    "C" wrote:
    I'd rather go into the season with Sauce and Mills...
    "V" wrote:
    ...If I'm a defense, I'm not worried about Shank at all.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I have no idea.
    I was puzzled over the signing on day one and still am.


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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=49711.msg883087#msg883087 date=1229928832]
    I think the Shank is overpaid and should be cut crowd is gone now
    I've definitely shut the hell up about it... but at the time, he was playing like crap.

    Oh yah, he was bugging me too

    I guess I usually roll with the "give them time" crowd
    I got upset about Shaincoe's playing when Jackson got benched... I blamed it on him pretty much.

    If he had caught that TD (against the Colts I think?), I don't think Jackson would have been benched.

    I think things have worked out nicely though... him and Jackson both were great today.
    That Shiancoe "Hate" thread started long before the Colts game.

    08/11/2008
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46996.0
    It's only fair to make a list of offenders:

    "Schutz" wrote:
    I believe the article should have been named "Viking's TE Shiancoe hopes new hands come in mail soon".
    "Garland" wrote:
    Was he ever "On track"
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    I don't want to hear the word "tries," I just want him to do what a TE, that isn't one dimensional, is suppose to do.
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    We need a new TE. Period.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...That is the kind of increase that you would like to see from someone going from a reserve on one team to a starter on another team with a big pay increase.
    "PurplePowerPunch" wrote:
    ....They are right here. Too many mistakes from a TE that signed a 18.5 million dollar contract. He's not worth it at all!!! >
    "C" wrote:
    He's just not a good TE... plain and simple.
    "MaxVike" wrote:
    ...Not sure where they saw his potential; I'm among the yutz's who didn't see it either.
    I was merely trying to represent their only possible argument...not sure why.
    And, for the record...I was quite adamant on this board pre-draft that we needed to address the TE position, just in case Shiancoe is as poohie this year as last
    ;D...and, yes, I think they made a bad hire.
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    ...You say we want him to run down the field, catch passes and hurdle like wiggy, where as most fans would settle with running down the field and catching passes. Which doesn't seem like were asking too much.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I expect drops. He simply is not that good. However, he does fit the scheme.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...One dimensional TE's are a dime a dozen.
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    ...If we wanted a pass catcher, we would have stuck with Wiggins.
    He was able to get open, and he caught a lot of balls, and sometimes he would hurdle someone for fun.
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    ....Most of the people defending Shank are saying that his mediocre ability is okay for our team.
    That's fine, but it doesn't help take him out of the wasted signing category.

    And its fine to keep the faith.
    Admirable even.
    Just not much of an argument.
    "C" wrote:
    I'd rather go into the season with Sauce and Mills...
    "V" wrote:
    ...If I'm a defense, I'm not worried about Shank at all.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I have no idea.
    I was puzzled over the signing on day one and still am.


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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    [quote author=C Mac D link=topic=49711.msg883091#msg883091 date=1229929247]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=49711.msg883087#msg883087 date=1229928832]
    I think the Shank is overpaid and should be cut crowd is gone now
    I've definitely shut the hell up about it... but at the time, he was playing like crap.

    Oh yah, he was bugging me too

    I guess I usually roll with the "give them time" crowd
    I got upset about Shaincoe's playing when Jackson got benched... I blamed it on him pretty much.

    If he had caught that TD (against the Colts I think?), I don't think Jackson would have been benched.

    I think things have worked out nicely though... him and Jackson both were great today.
    That Shiancoe "Hate" thread started long before the Colts game.

    08/11/2008
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46996.0
    It's only fair to make a list of offenders:

    "Schutz" wrote:
    I believe the article should have been named "Viking's TE Shiancoe hopes new hands come in mail soon".
    "Garland" wrote:
    Was he ever "On track"
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    I don't want to hear the word "tries," I just want him to do what a TE, that isn't one dimensional, is suppose to do.
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    We need a new TE. Period.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...That is the kind of increase that you would like to see from someone going from a reserve on one team to a starter on another team with a big pay increase.
    "PurplePowerPunch" wrote:
    ....They are right here. Too many mistakes from a TE that signed a 18.5 million dollar contract. He's not worth it at all!!! >
    "C" wrote:
    He's just not a good TE... plain and simple.
    "MaxVike" wrote:
    ...Not sure where they saw his potential; I'm among the yutz's who didn't see it either.
    I was merely trying to represent their only possible argument...not sure why.
    And, for the record...I was quite adamant on this board pre-draft that we needed to address the TE position, just in case Shiancoe is as poohie this year as last
    ;D...and, yes, I think they made a bad hire.
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    ...You say we want him to run down the field, catch passes and hurdle like wiggy, where as most fans would settle with running down the field and catching passes. Which doesn't seem like were asking too much.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I expect drops. He simply is not that good. However, he does fit the scheme.
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    ...One dimensional TE's are a dime a dozen.
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    ...If we wanted a pass catcher, we would have stuck with Wiggins.
    He was able to get open, and he caught a lot of balls, and sometimes he would hurdle someone for fun.
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    ....Most of the people defending Shank are saying that his mediocre ability is okay for our team.
    That's fine, but it doesn't help take him out of the wasted signing category.

    And its fine to keep the faith.
    Admirable even.
    Just not much of an argument.
    "C" wrote:
    I'd rather go into the season with Sauce and Mills...
    "V" wrote:
    ...If I'm a defense, I'm not worried about Shank at all.
    "V" wrote:
    ...I have no idea.
    I was puzzled over the signing on day one and still am.


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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Lets not forget that some of us on here supported the guy from the git go and attributed alot of his ineffectiveness to familiarity with the scheme, poor play at the QB positions along with the biggest issue, having to stay in alot to help out a shitty OL.

    Funny thing, his numbers were huge and our OL looked like shit.
    Anyone but me see the correlation?

    I'm in a "Fire the OL coach" mood again today.

    >
    Bring back Tice to coach the OL.

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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Lets not forget that some of us on here supported the guy from the git go and attributed alot of his ineffectiveness to familiarity with the scheme, poor play at the QB positions along with the biggest issue, having to stay in alot to help out a shitty OL.

    Funny thing, his numbers were huge and our OL looked like shit.
    Anyone but me see the correlation?

    I'm in a "Fire the OL coach" mood again today.

    >
    Bring back Tice to coach the OL.
    I hated Tice as a HC, but, I wouldn't mind him back as the OL coach.
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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Lets not forget that some of us on here supported the guy from the git go and attributed alot of his ineffectiveness to familiarity with the scheme, poor play at the QB positions along with the biggest issue, having to stay in alot to help out a poohie OL.

    Funny thing, his numbers were huge and our OL looked like pooh.
    Anyone but me see the correlation?

    I'm in a "Fire the OL coach" mood again today.

    >
    Bring back Tice to coach the OL.
    Now that is something I would be onboard with.

    God love TJ yesterday.
    Poor kid put on 50 miles trying to get away from defensive players in the back field while he waited for one of our lame ass WR's to get open.
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    Re: The Shankster is emerging

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Lets not forget that some of us on here supported the guy from the git go and attributed alot of his ineffectiveness to familiarity with the scheme, poor play at the QB positions along with the biggest issue, having to stay in alot to help out a poohie OL.

    Funny thing, his numbers were huge and our OL looked like pooh.
    Anyone but me see the correlation?

    I'm in a "Fire the OL coach" mood again today.

    >
    Bring back Tice to coach the OL.
    Now that is something I would be onboard with.

    God love TJ yesterday.
    Poor kid put on 50 miles trying to get away from defensive players in the back field while he waited for one of our lame ass WR's to get open.
    He was also our top rusher yesterday. As many yards as AD (76) in 14 less attempts.


    Lets see ole Gus do any of that.

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