Sanford makes good on 2nd chance

**tastywaves** · 10-01-2012, 11:22 AM

Jamarca had some good hits yesterday and his fumble causing hit and recovery were a big part of our victory yesterday. He has never had a problem being physical, where he lacks is being in the right place at the right time or making a play in space.

Mistral was playing well before he went down..much better than I saw him play last year. We can get by with Sanford for now, but I will feel better when Raymond gets back.

That was truly a black and blue game, I can only imagine how long the line was in Detroit to get into the ice tub.

**Marrdro** · 10-01-2012, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by tastywaves

Jamarca had some good hits yesterday and his fumble causing hit and recovery were a big part of our victory yesterday. He has never had a problem being physical, where he lacks is being in the right place at the right time or making a play in space.

Mistral was playing well before he went down..much better than I saw him play last year. We can get by with Sanford for now, but I will feel better when Raymond gets back.

That was truly a black and blue game, I can only imagine how long the line was in Detroit to get into the ice tub.

Quick question. How much do you think it helps the S's to be in the right place at the right time when they are back in their zones like they were yesterday.

Truth be told, yesterday was the first time in a long time I saw S's and LB"rs (especially Jasper) that deep at the snap of the ball.

I personally think that is why they were so successful.

**Freakout** · 10-01-2012, 01:19 PM

Sanford still struggles in coverage. If you use him as a in the box safety he isn't a bad player.

**tastywaves** · 10-01-2012, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Freakout

Sanford still struggles in coverage. If you use him as a in the box safety he isn't a bad player.

Exactly.

**kevoncox** · 10-01-2012, 02:13 PM

I was one of the first guys to call for JS to get some playing time back when we had M. WIlliams and Co. With that said, the guy has clear deficiencies in turning and running with Wrs and in taking the correct angle on sweep plays. Will he get better? Possible but I would like us to address the SS position with a safety like Reid from LSU.

Hey Marr,
Looks like Evans had a hell of a game yesterday at the 3 tech.

**tastywaves** · 10-01-2012, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Marrdro

Quick question. How much do you think it helps the S's to be in the right place at the right time when they are back in their zones like they were yesterday.

Truth be told, yesterday was the first time in a long time I saw S's and LB"rs (especially Jasper) that deep at the snap of the ball.

I personally think that is why they were so successful.

They were that deep largely because they were defending a vertical oriented offense and had a lead after the first 15 seconds of the game. Not just because the DL was blowing up the OL.

Don't get too carried away with trying to convince everyone that our only issue for the last 10 years has been with the front 4 providing adequate pressure. Your point is well taken, that the secondary is more able to do their job when the DL is doing theirs, but it doesn't let the secondary off the hook for poor play.

**tastywaves** · 10-01-2012, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by kevoncox

I was one of the first guys to call for JS to get some playing time back when we had M. WIlliams and Co. With that said, the guy has clear deficiencies in turning and running with Wrs and in taking the correct angle on sweep plays. Will he get better? Possible but I would like us to address the SS position with a safety like Reid from LSU.

Hey Marr,
Looks like Evans had a hell of a game yesterday at the 3 tech.

Completely agree on Sanford. Although he did make an impact this Sunday, and he should get credit for that.

I think we should look at focusing on WR in the draft first

**Marrdro** · 10-02-2012, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by kevoncox

I was one of the first guys to call for JS to get some playing time back when we had M. WIlliams and Co. With that said, the guy has clear deficiencies in turning and running with Wrs and in taking the correct angle on sweep plays. Will he get better? Possible but I would like us to address the SS position with a safety like Reid from LSU.

Hey Marr,
Looks like Evans had a hell of a game yesterday at the 3 tech.

I did. I think he is servicable at the 3 tech. Never said otherwise. Its the 0/1 tech that I have beef with him at. I think the coaches are crazy for trying to make him fill that spot.

On a side note, because they are trying Guion there, I think the new D-coord agrees with me.

**Marrdro** · 10-02-2012, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Freakout

Sanford still struggles in coverage. If you use him as a in the box safety he isn't a bad player.

So how do you explain how well he did in coverage (out of the box) last weekend?

Like all DB's, if they are forced to play short in their zones, or on the line, they will look like crap in coverage.

If the DL doesn't need help, like it didn't last weekend, they are allowed to play deep in their zones which allows them to read/react better in the scheme.

Mix in that he seems to have been getting better coaching/progressing, and I think you will see why he has played better. Or at least appears to be playing better.

**Marrdro** · 10-02-2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by tastywaves

They were that deep largely because they were defending a vertical oriented offense and had a lead after the first 15 seconds of the game. Not just because the DL was blowing up the OL.

Don't get too carried away with trying to convince everyone that our only issue for the last 10 years has been with the front 4 providing adequate pressure. Your point is well taken, that the secondary is more able to do their job when the DL is doing theirs, but it doesn't let the secondary off the hook for poor play.

I can live with that.

Look, I'm not letting them off the hook. I'd love to have shut down corners and free ranging S's, but they just don't grow on trees. What we have are C2 DB's that need to have good play by the DL (pressure) and LB'rs (stopping the run/coverage in the short zones) for them to do their job correctly.

If one area in front of them breaks down they will look like crap. If both areas do what they are supposed to do, they will look more than serviceable, like we saw last weekend and to a certain extent, the weekend before.

Just an observation, but it seems that every week this defense gets a bit better. Maybe we, as fans, just need to be a bit more patient with our team as the new D-coord works with them to understand the scheme he is trying to run.