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    Saints fan here- Come in peace

    Well fellas, in a weird type of way it's basically game week. Most teams start preparing for Week 1 (if they haven't already) after their 3rd preseason game.

    I am interested in your opinions on the game September 9th. Judging by Week 1 for the Vikes last season, Brett Favre only attempted 21 passes, so I don't expect Childress to put Favre out on the field and make him throw the ball up and down the field. So for me, I have to believe the Saints will have to stop the run, as I expect the Vikes to run Peterson early and often.

    I also thought we could talk about changes that have been made since the NFCCG to our squads. For the Saints the most obvious has to be on defense. We could start the season with basically 4 new starters. Alex Brown at DE, Scott Shanle at SLB (last years WLB), Jonathan Casillas at WLB (has won the starting job in camp), and possibly Malcom Jenkins at FS if Darren Sharper isn't back for the game. Sharper hasn't put the pads on yet during TC. As for the pro's and con's of the changes, Brown is a huge upgrade from Bobby McCray and Charles Grant (who is nolonger with the Saints). McCray was a pass rush specialist and Grant was a run stopper. Brown can do a bit of both. Losing Scott Fujita in FA the Saints have slid Scott Shanle to SLB and he is now trying to get use to the position, Jonathan Casillas is a very athletic young OLB. I think later in the season these moves will prove to be a huge upgrade for our LB's, but I'm not sold on them being an improvement so early in the season. Having Jenkins back there gives up a little more speed and coverage skills, but he isn't the ballhawk Sharper was.

    On offense, it's basically the same. One difference is we'll be a little better running the football because our starting FB is back from IR. Also Reggie Bush is a new man and is having an incredible preseason. During the regular season he averaged 58 yards per game, this preseason he is averaging 51 yards per game in basically a half, if that.

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    Re:Saints fan here- Come in peace

    Nola, welcome to the site and thanks for a grat topic to kick off the season. As you probably already know the Vikings and their fans this day can't come soon enough. Last year's loss was a heart breaker so we are raring to get going.

    I agree with just about everything you have to say. Not many changes on the Viking end. As of right now Sidney Rice is the only starter not starting but I think our additions of Greg Camarillo and Javon Walker can make up the difference. Camarillo will allow Harvin to be more of an outside threat and I expect him to step up to to be tha #1 WR.

    I don't see Favre throwing 35 times but high 20s isn't far of a stretch. I do expect Peterson to run a lot and not come out so often on 3rd downs. Losing Chester Taylor may hurt a little. He seems to be doing well with the Bears. One guy that seems to have stepped it up and may be the new 3rd down back is Reynaud. Gerhart is supposed to be the guy and most likely he will but I don't think he is as ready right now as Reynaud is. Just my personal opinion there.

    Again, welcome to the site and look forward to a well played game without injuries to either team.

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    nolafan33 wrote:
    Well fellas, in a weird type of way it's basically game week. Most teams start preparing for Week 1 (if they haven't already) after their 3rd preseason game.

    I am interested in your opinions on the game September 9th. Judging by Week 1 for the Vikes last season, Brett Favre only attempted 21 passes, so I don't expect Childress to put Favre out on the field and make him throw the ball up and down the field. So for me, I have to believe the Saints will have to stop the run, as I expect the Vikes to run Peterson early and often.

    I also thought we could talk about changes that have been made since the NFCCG to our squads. For the Saints the most obvious has to be on defense. We could start the season with basically 4 new starters. Alex Brown at DE, Scott Shanle at SLB (last years WLB), Jonathan Casillas at WLB (has won the starting job in camp), and possibly Malcom Jenkins at FS if Darren Sharper isn't back for the game. Sharper hasn't put the pads on yet during TC. As for the pro's and con's of the changes, Brown is a huge upgrade from Bobby McCray and Charles Grant (who is nolonger with the Saints). McCray was a pass rush specialist and Grant was a run stopper. Brown can do a bit of both. Losing Scott Fujita in FA the Saints have slid Scott Shanle to SLB and he is now trying to get use to the position, Jonathan Casillas is a very athletic young OLB. I think later in the season these moves will prove to be a huge upgrade for our LB's, but I'm not sold on them being an improvement so early in the season. Having Jenkins back there gives up a little more speed and coverage skills, but he isn't the ballhawk Sharper was.

    On offense, it's basically the same. One difference is we'll be a little better running the football because our starting FB is back from IR. Also Reggie Bush is a new man and is having an incredible preseason. During the regular season he averaged 58 yards per game, this preseason he is averaging 51 yards per game in basically a half, if that.
    Nice post, welcome to the site.

    I don't think you can take week one of last season into consideration here. Favre had only been with the team for a couple of weeks at that point. Now he'll have been here for a year and a couple of weeks. He knows the guys around him and the nuances of the playbook.

    Reggie Bush doesn't scare me. At least not running the ball. Maybe if he's returning kicks or coming out of the backfield as a receiver. But if our team has proven anything over the past 4 years, it's that no one can really run the ball against us.

    We tore your defense apart last year, so Alex Brown would be shouldering an Atlas-like load if he alone were to improve the defense. Take away the dirty hits on Favre and the giveaways on our part and you have a playoff blowout of epic proportion.

    Fact of the matter is, we whipped your ass in regulation in the NFC Championship Game, we just happened to beat ourselves worse. Then came overtime, a true joke, a disgrace to football. And it had nothing to do with the overtime rules which were changed. I didn't think it was possible to get three booth reviews wrong in one season, let alone less than five minutes of play.
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    I've never wanted to beat a team as badly as I want to against you guys week one.

    We gave you a gift of a Super Bowl berth, the officials tied the bow. I hope you realize that.

    Bring it on. I can't wait for week one.


    All of that being said, I would be surprised if we don't lose this game. Our offensive line looks like garbage right now.

    Again, welcome to the Purple Pride. Great first post, keep 'em coming.

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    Re:Saints fan here- Come in peace

    nolafan33 wrote:
    I am interested in your opinions on the game September 9th. Judging by Week 1 for the Vikes last season, Brett Favre only attempted 21 passes, so I don't expect Childress to put Favre out on the field and make him throw the ball up and down the field. So for me, I have to believe the Saints will have to stop the run, as I expect the Vikes to run Peterson early and often.
    Last year week 1 Favre had only been a Viking for about 3 weeks and was still learning the players and plays. This year he is coming off his best year as a pro with essentially the same team. I would not count on him not putting up the ball. I think you are more likely to see a balanced offense. Favre will just go with what works and we have a lot of weapons. If we don't turn the ball over we will win as we should have last year. It should be a really good game.

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    We look like a complete different offense out there this season. I think our defense will still give you fits but...our offense keeps putting our defense in bad predicaments. We are probably going to lose this one.

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    I have had a bad taste in my mouth since the NFC title game. I believe:

    1) Yes the crowd will be rabid

    2) Bush doesn't scare me

    3) Vikings win on a FG

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    Welcome to our little home away from home.

    I'm looking forward eagerly to this game as well. I have one major worry, really, and it has nothing whatsoever to do will personnel or comparative evaluations.

    The Vikings have a well-documented history of self-destructing in important nationally broadcast games, especially when they are considered to be among the front-runners, as they are this year. I can't even count the number of times that we've comeinto a game being hyped and heavily favored, only to implode in a particularly embarassing fashion in front of millions of viewers.

    This game promises to be one of the most highly viewed regular season games of all time, THe hype is crazy already and can only get worse. I am very, very worried.

    That said, on paper we should once again totally dismantle the Saints. While Bush has looked very good, the Viking defense just doesn't allow big rushing games. He may break off one or two big gains, but that should be about all.

    Our OL is in a b it of flux at the moment, and it is possible that your DL may capitalize a bit on that, Your guys are good, and this is the one matchup that I think leans most in your direction.

    You may indeed see a lot of Peterson, early and often, but don't bet on it being the major focus of our offense. Even without Rice, we'll have a lot of quality receiving targets on the field, and a guy who knows better than any just how to use them all to their best potential.

    Anyway, here's to a good, clean game. Hope you will stick around for more good conversation for the rest of the season.

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    Good post Nolafan. I had Bush in a fantasy league last year, he didn't do as well as I had hoped for me. I have one league left to go, and he should come reasonably cheap, so I'm going to give him another try based on your information.

    As to the Vikes, what I am seeing (Puker fan) is an offensive line that is really looking like it could prove to be a liability. I'll wait and see about the WR situation, it doesn't appear as bad as the national media seems to be trying to indicate.

    If the Saints win this game, it will be because they got to Brett. AD looks like who he is, the best in the business, imo. The question will be if the Vikes can keep pace on the scoreboard by running the ball. I doubt that Bush is going to be a difference-maker in this game, but like I said, you would know better than I.

    Blitz the hell out of Favre. They don't like that here, lol

    Good luck to your Saints. I'll be rooting for them!

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    BOO THAT MAN!!!!!!

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    No doubt the Vikings outplayed the Saints in the NFCCG, and we were extremely lucky to come out on top. The Vikings shot themselves in the foot a number of times, some of the Saints making and some not. Some of the calls were questionable, but there were questionable calls on both sides. I for one, do think Pierre got that first down, and you can see that in this image, remeber the forward progress rule:



    The David Thomas PI call, the defender didn't locate the ball what so ever (sometimes you'll see a defender with his body turned but his head isn't, the defender didn't have his body or his head turned) and you'd probably see that called a good bit. I also think Meachem had control of the ball.

    But hey, that's all in the past and it's time to look forward to September 9th. I will however say, the Saints didn't come anywhere near playing their best ball in that game, and if you saw the Saints play any other games you'd know that.

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