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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.

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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.

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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927497#msg927497 date=1238160055]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.
    [/quote]

    That's a pretty good point... wasn't Cook slotted as a 4th round pick?
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927497#msg927497 date=1238160055]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.
    [/quote]

    Yes sir. Both were reaches and we probably could have drafted someone else that could be contributing in the 2nd round and still have Cook and TJ. Pisses me off.

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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "C" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927501#msg927501 date=1238160251]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927497#msg927497 date=1238160055]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.
    [/quote]

    That's a pretty good point... wasn't Cook slotted as a 4th round pick?
    [/quote]
    They could have used thier first, and both seconds to get Cutler and still got Cook and Griff later.
    Still mystifies me why they didn't.

    My guess is they probably felt that was to much and Clemens would be available.
    After he was gone they had to move up to get TJ as he was the only WCO QB left.
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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927501#msg927501 date=1238160251]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927497#msg927497 date=1238160055]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.
    [/quote]

    Yes sir. Both were reaches and we probably could have drafted someone else that could be contributing in the 2nd round and still have Cook and TJ. Pisses me off.
    [/quote]

    Pisses me off too.
    I'm not so sure TJ would have still been around.
    But in the same sense that portion of the draft that year I never agreed with.

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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927503#msg927503 date=1238160326]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927501#msg927501 date=1238160251]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927497#msg927497 date=1238160055]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.
    [/quote]

    Yes sir. Both were reaches and we probably could have drafted someone else that could be contributing in the 2nd round and still have Cook and TJ. Pisses me off.
    [/quote]

    Pisses me off too.
    I'm not so sure TJ would have still been around.
    But in the same sense that portion of the draft that year I never agreed with.
    [/quote]
    Obviously alot of people didn't that actually work at Winter Park as the dude that orchestrated it got fired shortly after it.

    ;D
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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927505#msg927505 date=1238160498]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927503#msg927503 date=1238160326]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927501#msg927501 date=1238160251]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927497#msg927497 date=1238160055]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.
    [/quote]

    Yes sir. Both were reaches and we probably could have drafted someone else that could be contributing in the 2nd round and still have Cook and TJ. Pisses me off.
    [/quote]

    Pisses me off too.
    I'm not so sure TJ would have still been around.
    But in the same sense that portion of the draft that year I never agreed with.
    [/quote]
    Obviously alot of people didn't that actually work at Winter Park as the dude that orchestrated it got fired shortly after it.

    ;D
    [/quote]

    I have a feeling both of them (TJ and Cook) will be replaced this year as well.

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    Re: Ryan Cook, Just flat out not cutting it

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927506#msg927506 date=1238160561]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927505#msg927505 date=1238160498]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927503#msg927503 date=1238160326]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927501#msg927501 date=1238160251]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927497#msg927497 date=1238160055]
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=48492.msg927492#msg927492 date=1238159730]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927489#msg927489 date=1238159096]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=48492.msg927463#msg927463 date=1238156087]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48492.msg927459#msg927459 date=1238155813]
    Most team sites put a caveat on the bottom of thier page stating that the team depth charts won't be updated until the beginning of camp.

    Case you guys didn't notice.

    :
    I guess that goes back to my earlier point on who really gives a frog's fat behind?
    All we can go by is what is the lates news and depth charts.
    That is all I see.
    SO it looks like Cook was the starter at the end of the season.
    As Mars pointed out Hicks was hurt and didn't play so how much if this matters.
    Absolutely none of it.
    We won't know until late August or early September who the starter is or even if it is either of these two players.
    ALl we can do is take what we read / see for what it is worth.
    Not that it really matters, however, when I scrub each teams depth chart I take into account alot of things as indicators that a shift might be coming.....

    a.
    What his the incumbants contract status.
    b.
    How often he got hurt.
    c.
    Did he ever get into a pissing contest with the coach.
    d.
    Did the staff go ahead and put some young cat in to get him reps if the season is all but a wash.
    e.
    Did the staff bring in any Vets during the offseason.
    g.
    Has the team scheduled visits with kids at that position.

    Gives you a better feel than some outdated depth chart...... :
    You forgot something....

    h. Did he get benched due to performance.
    d.
    Kindof covers that for me.
    The season was not a wash nor was Hicks put in to get reps. Cook sucked and got benched. That deserves an h.
    ;D
    [/quote]
    I don't think I have ever seen a fan have a deep burning hate for a cat the way you do for Cook.

    Unless of course his name is Lord Dickhead.
    ;D
    [/quote]

    It is more of a hate for a coach who thinks he can put guys where they don't belong and get away with it.
    [/quote]
    Touche'......That has been my point about Cook for quite some time now.
    [/quote]

    Personally I've always believed it was a reach to draft Cook when they did.
    I think if they really wanted TJ they could have drafted him there (not saying I personally agree with drafting hm that high) and Cook would have still been around in the 3rd round.
    Then we could have kept both the 3rd rounders and had the same players.
    JMO of course.
    IMO both were a reach where they drafted them in the first place but since the Vikes needed a QB I can almost understand why they went after TJ when they did.
    It was how they did it given they drafted Cook in the 2nd that makes me scratch my noggin.
    [/quote]

    Yes sir. Both were reaches and we probably could have drafted someone else that could be contributing in the 2nd round and still have Cook and TJ. Pisses me off.
    [/quote]

    Pisses me off too.
    I'm not so sure TJ would have still been around.
    But in the same sense that portion of the draft that year I never agreed with.
    [/quote]
    Obviously alot of people didn't that actually work at Winter Park as the dude that orchestrated it got fired shortly after it.

    ;D
    [/quote]

    I have a feeling both of them (TJ and Cook) will be replaced this year as well.
    [/quote]

    Cook - most likely.
    TJ I am not so sure about just yet.
    I think he and Sage will have a good battle in preseason.
    If TJ can just learn to calm down some and hit the easy passes there is no reason why he can't have a better completion % like Sage does.
    If Sage can limit the turnovers than he has a great chance of winning the starting spot.

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