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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
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    I'm not a big fan of the 3-4... I say, if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
    And what part of our defense is so great?
    is it because we are so great in pass coverage?? how about pressure on the qb?
    I think something does need to be fixed, I'm not saying a 3-4 is the answer, but they need to think of something.


    I was watching the Week 2 vikigns/lions game on NFLN, and even though they got lit up on the pass that game, some of the plays, the corners would play press coverage on the recievers.
    It was those plays that a pass was broken up and the ends were able to pressure the qb.
    The plays where the corners played off were the plays where they gave up a big gain.
    Hopefully Chilly and Fraizer realize this and make a change for next year.
    We had the #1 run defense in the league last season... I don't think switching to a 3-4 is going to improve that.
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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
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    Players who are not suited for 3-4.

    CBs
    Ends
    Kevin Williams
    OLBs
    Sharper

    Virtually Pat williams as NT, EJ and Greenway in the middle, Williams at FS and the rest of our team would need to be revamped.
    Exactly jj.

    No way K.W. can play DE.
    A DE in a 3-4 is in the inside of the O-tackle, i dont think he would have a problem, i actually think he would get more sacks

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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "DustinDupont" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    Players who are not suited for 3-4.

    CBs
    Ends
    Kevin Williams
    OLBs
    Sharper

    Virtually Pat williams as NT, EJ and Greenway in the middle, Williams at FS and the rest of our team would need to be revamped.
    Exactly jj.

    No way K.W. can play DE.
    A DE in a 3-4 is in the inside of the O-tackle, i dont think he would have a problem, i actually think he would get more sacks
    Not always.
    If they line-up in the 'B' gap yes.
    But they can go heads-up and 'C' gap as well.

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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "DustinDupont" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    Players who are not suited for 3-4.

    CBs
    Ends
    Kevin Williams
    OLBs
    Sharper

    Virtually Pat williams as NT, EJ and Greenway in the middle, Williams at FS and the rest of our team would need to be revamped.
    Exactly jj.

    No way K.W. can play DE.
    A DE in a 3-4 is in the inside of the O-tackle, i dont think he would have a problem, i actually think he would get more sacks
    He came into the draft as a defensive end and many thought that he could play the 3-4 DE very well.. For a big guy he has outstanding passrushing moves, i dont think this would be a problem at all..


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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "C" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    I'm not a big fan of the 3-4... I say, if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
    And what part of our defense is so great?
    is it because we are so great in pass coverage?? how about pressure on the qb?
    I think something does need to be fixed, I'm not saying a 3-4 is the answer, but they need to think of something.


    I was watching the Week 2 vikigns/lions game on NFLN, and even though they got lit up on the pass that game, some of the plays, the corners would play press coverage on the recievers.
    It was those plays that a pass was broken up and the ends were able to pressure the qb.
    The plays where the corners played off were the plays where they gave up a big gain.
    Hopefully Chilly and Fraizer realize this and make a change for next year.
    We had the #1 run defense in the league last season... I don't think switching to a 3-4 is going to improve that.
    and we had the last ranked pass defense.
    Where do you think most of the points scored against us came from? the pass.
    I would gladly move down to a #2-10 ranked rush defense if it meant moving into the top 15 for pass defense.

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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "C" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    I'm not a big fan of the 3-4... I say, if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
    And what part of our defense is so great?
    is it because we are so great in pass coverage?? how about pressure on the qb?
    I think something does need to be fixed, I'm not saying a 3-4 is the answer, but they need to think of something.


    I was watching the Week 2 vikigns/lions game on NFLN, and even though they got lit up on the pass that game, some of the plays, the corners would play press coverage on the recievers.
    It was those plays that a pass was broken up and the ends were able to pressure the qb.
    The plays where the corners played off were the plays where they gave up a big gain.
    Hopefully Chilly and Fraizer realize this and make a change for next year.
    We had the #1 run defense in the league last season... I don't think switching to a 3-4 is going to improve that.
    We had 32nd pass coverage too... i think the 3-4 would help improve that a lot

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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    I'm not a big fan of the 3-4... I say, if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
    And what part of our defense is so great?
    is it because we are so great in pass coverage?? how about pressure on the qb?
    I think something does need to be fixed, I'm not saying a 3-4 is the answer, but they need to think of something.


    I was watching the Week 2 vikigns/lions game on NFLN, and even though they got lit up on the pass that game, some of the plays, the corners would play press coverage on the recievers.
    It was those plays that a pass was broken up and the ends were able to pressure the qb.
    The plays where the corners played off were the plays where they gave up a big gain.
    Hopefully Chilly and Fraizer realize this and make a change for next year.
    We had the #1 run defense in the league last season... I don't think switching to a 3-4 is going to improve that.
    and we had the last ranked pass defense.
    Where do you think most of the points scored against us came from? the pass.
    I would gladly move down to a #2-10 ranked rush defense if it meant moving into the top 15 for pass defense.
    No... just because we need an additional CB who can cover (or stop making stupid decisions like having Marcus McCauley cover Santana Moss) and a DE... that doesn't mean we should tear up one of the best run stopping defenses (EVER) just to fix the passing problem.

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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "C" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    I'm not a big fan of the 3-4... I say, if it ain't broke... don't fix it.
    And what part of our defense is so great?
    is it because we are so great in pass coverage?? how about pressure on the qb?
    I think something does need to be fixed, I'm not saying a 3-4 is the answer, but they need to think of something.


    I was watching the Week 2 vikigns/lions game on NFLN, and even though they got lit up on the pass that game, some of the plays, the corners would play press coverage on the recievers.
    It was those plays that a pass was broken up and the ends were able to pressure the qb.
    The plays where the corners played off were the plays where they gave up a big gain.
    Hopefully Chilly and Fraizer realize this and make a change for next year.
    We had the #1 run defense in the league last season... I don't think switching to a 3-4 is going to improve that.
    and we had the last ranked pass defense.
    Where do you think most of the points scored against us came from? the pass.
    I would gladly move down to a #2-10 ranked rush defense if it meant moving into the top 15 for pass defense.
    No... just because we need an additional CB who can cover (or stop making stupid decisions like having Marcus McCauley cover Santana Moss) and a DE... that doesn't mean we should tear up one of the best run stopping defenses (EVER) just to fix the passing problem.

    I really dont think it would hurt are run defense that much but i would much rather have a balance on defense then just being good at one thing

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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    "skum" wrote:
    "DustinDupont" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    "jessejames09" wrote:
    Players who are not suited for 3-4.

    CBs
    Ends
    Kevin Williams
    OLBs
    Sharper

    Virtually Pat williams as NT, EJ and Greenway in the middle, Williams at FS and the rest of our team would need to be revamped.
    Exactly jj.

    No way K.W. can play DE.
    A DE in a 3-4 is in the inside of the O-tackle, i dont think he would have a problem, i actually think he would get more sacks
    He came into the draft as a defensive end and many thought that he could play the 3-4 DE very well.. For a big guy he has outstanding passrushing moves, i dont think this would be a problem at all..
    We already played it with Ted Cottrell with KW at end. We were more suited to it then than we are now now. I don't think KW is very fond of it either.

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    Re: Running the 3-4 defense...

    The only plus I can see in moving to a 3-4 is to develop some of the young talent we have at LB. I'd love to see Greenway, Henderson, Alexander and Leber on the field all at once... but I'm not crazy about having only 3 linemen when we have two of the best DT's in the league and some promise in Robison and James (who is still pretty young himself).
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