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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

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    BJ is the only reason we have won any games. His long passes are dropped, what do you want him to do? Blame our receivers. And if the line gave him a second or 2 maybe he could complete more.

    The bad red zone play calls aernt his fault. The fault belongs to someone whose initials are BC
    THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
    It will be, if Childress doesn't start giving his team an opportunity to win with more aggressive play-calling.

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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    I don't know what all the arguing is about. Our RedZone offense is pathetic.
    Each of us has our own opinions as to why.

    We are in a slump when it comes to TDs.
    Something has to change.

    When we get a couple running TDs, and the Oline feels better about their blocking we will all be happier around here.
    If we are able to score doing more than one thing to get inthe endzone, then we can open up the playbook to a few more pages also.

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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "Webby" wrote:
    "CCthebest" wrote:
    BJ is the only reason we have won any games. His long passes are dropped, what do you want him to do? Blame our receivers. And if the line gave him a second or 2 maybe he could complete more.

    The bad red zone play calls aernt his fault. The fault belongs to someone whose initials are BC
    THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
    It will be, if Childress doesn't start giving his team an opportunity to win with more aggressive play-calling.

    =Z=

    And throwing a 40 yard bomb on 4th and 2 is conservative? First you're telling him to be more conservative with his playcalling and then you're telling him to go all out and go for the touchdown every play. What exactly do you guys want from him?

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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "Webby" wrote:
    "CCthebest" wrote:
    BJ is the only reason we have won any games. His long passes are dropped, what do you want him to do? Blame our receivers. And if the line gave him a second or 2 maybe he could complete more.

    The bad red zone play calls aernt his fault. The fault belongs to someone whose initials are BC
    THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
    It will be, if Childress doesn't start giving his team an opportunity to win with more aggressive play-calling.

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    And throwing a 40 yard bomb on 4th and 2 is conservative? First you're telling him to be more conservative with his playcalling and then you're telling him to go all out and go for the touchdown every play. What exactly do you guys want from him?
    "You guys"?
    You mean me?
    You mean me, the FIRST caller into Viking Fan Line yesterday who bitched about the PREVIOUS PLAY to the 4th-down call and it being a run?
    You mean me, the guy who in other threads is talking about Childress not calling plays into the end zone after the offense marches right down the field to start the game?


    The 4th and 2 call was stupid.
    Neither conservative nor agressive.
    It was just STUPID.


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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    Kicking 51 yard field goals and going for it on 4th downs in the middle of the games, throwing a bomb on 4th and 2 is not being conservative.

    You know why our redzone offense sucks? It sucks because we are a new team, with new players, B. Mckinnie is the only offensive lineman who played the entire season last year and we have played THREE really solid defensive teams.

    When the defense has 20 yards to defend not to mention the back of the endzone and the sidelines act as 3 extra defenders, well then things get a little bit tougher. Great defensive teams have even greater redzone defense. If we can beat up on the bills, beat up on the Lions, you should see us building confidence in our redzone offense and begin to turn it around in no time.

    Perspective people, consider your opponent, consider the situation.

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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    "Del" wrote:
    Kicking 51 yard field goals and going for it on 4th downs in the middle of the games, throwing a bomb on 4th and 2 is not being conservative.
    Marching down the field on your opening drive and failing to put the ball into the end zone (and running YET ANOTHER draw play on 3rd and long) is conservative.

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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "Del" wrote:
    Kicking 51 yard field goals and going for it on 4th downs in the middle of the games, throwing a bomb on 4th and 2 is not being conservative.
    Marching down the field on your opening drive and failing to put the ball into the end zone (and running YET ANOTHER draw play on 3rd and long) is conservative.

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    Sorry there is nothing conservative about a draw. Especially when that was the very play that Moore ran and through his hard work achieved a first down. This isn't the Moss era. They expect a pass you do a run.

    What game were you watching that you imagine Brad had time to sit in the pocket on an obvious passing down and gun it into the endzone? Because it seems pretty obvious that the Bears were expecting pass and if the send a blitz a draw is the perfect call.

    Every game Brad Childress has called very unconservatively, weather it is going for it on 4th downs when other teams would punt, running draws on passing plays, running fake field goals, throwing deep on short yardage downs.

    Sorry find another scapegoat for our lack of redzone offense he is not the man

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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    "Del" wrote:
    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "Del" wrote:
    Kicking 51 yard field goals and going for it on 4th downs in the middle of the games, throwing a bomb on 4th and 2 is not being conservative.
    Marching down the field on your opening drive and failing to put the ball into the end zone (and running YET ANOTHER draw play on 3rd and long) is conservative.

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    Sorry there is nothing conservative about a draw. Especially when that was the very play that Moore ran and through his hard work achieved a first down. This isn't the Moss era. They expect a pass you do a run.

    What game were you watching that you imagine Brad had time to sit in the pocket on an obvious passing down and gun it into the endzone? Because it seems pretty obvious that the Bears were expecting pass and if the send a blitz a draw is the perfect call.

    Every game Brad Childress has called very unconservatively, weather it is going for it on 4th downs when other teams would punt, running draws on passing plays, running fake field goals, throwing deep on short yardage downs.

    Sorry find another scapegoat for our lack of redzone offense he is not the man
    Thank you del. The voice of reason among these people. Blame this person blame that person. Blame blame blame. We're going to school the bills and everyone will be back on the bandwagon.

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    Re: RED ZONE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH

    I don't see that conservatism is the problem. It's about execution, and also we have played good defences. And there is another one up next week.

    What I don't get is that we can't get more out of the playaction pass. The way we set up this offense, there should be some possibilities in the PA

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    I don't see that conservatism is the problem. It's about execution, and also we have played good defences. And there is another one up next week.

    What I don't get is that we can't get more out of the playaction pass. The way we set up this offense, there should be some possibilities in the PA
    We actually run a lot of PA pass. One of the reasons you don't see it on traditional PA passing downs is a lot of times the Vikings have been keeping a HB in to help protect Brad Johnson on passing downs.

    The big question to me, that Shockzilla brought up last night, is why are our TE's not a major part of the passing game? That is the shocker to me. Especially in the redzone.

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