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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "marstc09" wrote:
    The real question is what QB will be brought in.
    See thats how I thought at first but the more I think about it, a good coach can use the right QB...Fischer and Kerry Collins.
    The HC has to know how to sue the QB.
    That is why Childress doesnt work, becasue not only did he make a wrong choice at QB, he has gone about using him the wrong way.


    I agree taht I would love to get Holmgren is as OC and watch him work.
    Gruden and Cowher, can wreak havoc with defenses, which we already do.


    Although again if I had my pick I'd go with the guy that Childress stole teh stach look from.
    To me Cowher is a great coach, knows hot to manage a team and would fit into our division well with his style of pay.

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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "marstc09" wrote:
    The real question is what QB will be brought in.
    Pick one.
    There are so damn many of them out there.
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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    +1

    We have one of the worst QBs corps in the NFL right now.
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

    =Z=

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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    You have no issues with:

    Cards:
    What the hell is one more year gonna give them even if Warner does good this year?
    At somepoint they need to have another QB ready.
    Lienart perhaps? Same same for the Titans.
    What happens if Collins doesn't keep overachieving either this year or the next. Issues

    Giants: Comeon, the real Eli is gonna show up this year now that he doesn't have Plex anymore.
    Go check thier wins/losses with/without Plex.
    Hell, the only time Eli ever has a good December is when he has Plex at home or he isn't playing at home.
    Dude throws such a floater that he is all over the place in the cold and wind.

    Dolphins:
    Although this appears to be a nice thing up front, it is really kindof a slam on him.
    Seriously, to keep the offense moving they had to come up with a scheme that took the ball out of his hands?
    Gimme a break.

    Long story short, look real hard at em.
    I just don't see alot of good ones starting, let alone anything that resembles a quality backup.

    On a side note.........Falcons:
    So would I.
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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    +1

    We have one of the worst QBs corps in the NFL right now.
    One of but surely not in the bottom 10 or atleast 14.
    Am I happy about that?
    Heck no, but seriously with hindsight being 20/20 what would you have done over the last 3 years?

    Other teams (Subjectively 18 or so) are struggling with those same issues and the rest aren't that much better off
    is all I am saying.
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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    You have no issues with:

    Cards:
    What the hell is one more year gonna give them even if Warner does good this year?
    At somepoint they need to have another QB ready.
    Lienart perhaps? Same same for the Titans.
    What happens if Collins doesn't keep overachieving either this year or the next. Issues

    Giants: Comeon, the real Eli is gonna show up this year now that he doesn't have Plex anymore.
    Go check thier wins/losses with/without Plex.
    Hell, the only time Eli ever has a good December is when he has Plex at home or he isn't playing at home.
    Dude throws such a floater that he is all over the place in the cold and wind.

    Dolphins:
    Although this appears to be a nice thing up front, it is really kindof a slam on him.
    Seriously, to keep the offense moving they had to come up with a scheme that took the ball out of his hands?
    Gimme a break.

    Long story short, look real hard at em.
    I just don't see alot of good ones starting, let alone anything that resembles a quality backup.

    On a side note.........Falcons:
    So would I.

    so you don't think that Eli is a better situation than TJ/Sage?
    I sure do, as much as I dislike him

    Dolphins, can be argued either way, regardless, Pennington was one of the guys I really wanted when he was available

    Warner should be fien for another year, then they have Leinart, who if you're going to write off, then might as well say to hell with TJ.
    Leinart has had less time to prove himself than TJ has.
    Still, IMO a fine option to start in two years.

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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=52563.msg976567#msg976567 date=1248963123]
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    You have no issues with:

    Cards:
    What the hell is one more year gonna give them even if Warner does good this year?
    At somepoint they need to have another QB ready.
    Lienart perhaps? Same same for the Titans.
    What happens if Collins doesn't keep overachieving either this year or the next. Issues

    Giants: Comeon, the real Eli is gonna show up this year now that he doesn't have Plex anymore.
    Go check thier wins/losses with/without Plex.
    Hell, the only time Eli ever has a good December is when he has Plex at home or he isn't playing at home.
    Dude throws such a floater that he is all over the place in the cold and wind.

    Dolphins:
    Although this appears to be a nice thing up front, it is really kindof a slam on him.
    Seriously, to keep the offense moving they had to come up with a scheme that took the ball out of his hands?
    Gimme a break.

    Long story short, look real hard at em.
    I just don't see alot of good ones starting, let alone anything that resembles a quality backup.

    On a side note.........Falcons:
    So would I.

    so you don't think that Eli is a better situation than TJ/Sage?
    I sure do, as much as I dislike him

    Dolphins, can be argued either way, regardless, Pennington was one of the guys I really wanted when he was available

    Warner should be fien for another year, then they have Leinart, who if you're going to write off, then might as well say to hell with TJ.
    Leinart has had less time to prove himself than TJ has.
    Still, IMO a fine option to start in two years.
    [/quote]
    Lienart has had less of a chance than TJ?
    If that cat could play he would be on the field.
    By he by, he and TJ were drafted in the same draft class right?

    http://www.mynfldraft.com/2006/round2/

    Look this isn't something new.
    The state of the QB position in this league right now is horrendous and I've been hacking on it for a long time.

    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/in...6408#msg856408

    By the way,

    QB 1
    Matt Leinart SR 6-5/217/- USC Santa Ana, CA
    QB 2
    Vince Young JR 6-5/233/- Texas Houston, TX
    QB 3
    Jay Cutler SR 6-4/225/- Vanderbilt Lincoln City, IN
    QB 4
    Brodie Croyle SR 6-2.5/206/- Alabama Rainbow City, AL
    QB 5
    Charlie Whitehurst SR 6-4/215/4.75 Clemson Alpharetta, GA
    QB 6
    Kellen Clemens SR 6-2/218/- Oregon Burns, OR
    QB 7
    Omar Jacobs JR 6-4/210/- Bowling Green Delray Beach, FL
    QB 8
    Ingle Martin SR 6-3/219/- Furman Nashville, TN
    QB 9
    Darrell Hackney SR 6-1/230/- UAB Atlanta, GA
    QB 10
    Reggie McNeal SR 6-2/206/- Texas A&M Lufkin, TX
    QB 11
    Bruce Gradkowski SR 6-2/210/- Toledo Pittsburgh, PA
    QB 12
    D.J. Shockley SR 6-1/206/- Georgia College Park, GA
    QB 13
    Brett Basanez SR 6-2/210/- Northwestern Arlington Hts, IL
    QB 14
    Erik Meyer SR 6-2/210/- Eastern Washington La Mirada, CA
    QB 15
    Paul Pinegar SR 6-4/220/- Fresno State Woodland, CA
    QB 16
    Travaris Jackson SR -/-/- Alabama State

    Your a new GM and are rebuilding a team.
    Which cat would have you taken and when? ;D
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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=i_bleed_purple link=topic=52563.msg976569#msg976569 date=1248963225]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=52563.msg976567#msg976567 date=1248963123]
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    You have no issues with:

    Cards:
    What the hell is one more year gonna give them even if Warner does good this year?
    At somepoint they need to have another QB ready.
    Lienart perhaps? Same same for the Titans.
    What happens if Collins doesn't keep overachieving either this year or the next. Issues

    Giants: Comeon, the real Eli is gonna show up this year now that he doesn't have Plex anymore.
    Go check thier wins/losses with/without Plex.
    Hell, the only time Eli ever has a good December is when he has Plex at home or he isn't playing at home.
    Dude throws such a floater that he is all over the place in the cold and wind.

    Dolphins:
    Although this appears to be a nice thing up front, it is really kindof a slam on him.
    Seriously, to keep the offense moving they had to come up with a scheme that took the ball out of his hands?
    Gimme a break.

    Long story short, look real hard at em.
    I just don't see alot of good ones starting, let alone anything that resembles a quality backup.

    On a side note.........Falcons:
    So would I.

    so you don't think that Eli is a better situation than TJ/Sage?
    I sure do, as much as I dislike him

    Dolphins, can be argued either way, regardless, Pennington was one of the guys I really wanted when he was available

    Warner should be fien for another year, then they have Leinart, who if you're going to write off, then might as well say to hell with TJ.
    Leinart has had less time to prove himself than TJ has.
    Still, IMO a fine option to start in two years.
    [/quote]
    Lienart has had less of a chance than TJ?
    If that cat could play he would be on the field.
    By he by, he and TJ were drafted in the same draft class right?

    http://www.mynfldraft.com/2006/round2/

    Look this isn't something new.
    The state of the QB position in this league right now is horrendous and I've been hacking on it for a long time.

    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/in...6408#msg856408

    By the way,

    QB 1
    Matt Leinart SR 6-5/217/- USC Santa Ana, CA
    QB 2
    Vince Young JR 6-5/233/- Texas Houston, TX
    QB 3
    Jay Cutler SR 6-4/225/- Vanderbilt Lincoln City, IN
    QB 4
    Brodie Croyle SR 6-2.5/206/- Alabama Rainbow City, AL
    QB 5
    Charlie Whitehurst SR 6-4/215/4.75 Clemson Alpharetta, GA
    QB 6
    Kellen Clemens SR 6-2/218/- Oregon Burns, OR
    QB 7
    Omar Jacobs JR 6-4/210/- Bowling Green Delray Beach, FL
    QB 8
    Ingle Martin SR 6-3/219/- Furman Nashville, TN
    QB 9
    Darrell Hackney SR 6-1/230/- UAB Atlanta, GA
    QB 10
    Reggie McNeal SR 6-2/206/- Texas A&M Lufkin, TX
    QB 11
    Bruce Gradkowski SR 6-2/210/- Toledo Pittsburgh, PA
    QB 12
    D.J. Shockley SR 6-1/206/- Georgia College Park, GA
    QB 13
    Brett Basanez SR 6-2/210/- Northwestern Arlington Hts, IL
    QB 14
    Erik Meyer SR 6-2/210/- Eastern Washington La Mirada, CA
    QB 15
    Paul Pinegar SR 6-4/220/- Fresno State Woodland, CA
    QB 16
    Travaris Jackson SR -/-/- Alabama State

    Your a new GM and are rebuilding a team.
    Which cat would have you taken and when? ;D
    [/quote]

    So, wouldn't that shift the blame to the coaching staff?
    Since there are very few franchise-type QBs in the league it is up to the coaching staff to make the Trent Dilfer's of the world shine by capitalizing on the team's strengths.
    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain

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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=52563.msg976574#msg976574 date=1248963473]
    [quote author=i_bleed_purple link=topic=52563.msg976569#msg976569 date=1248963225]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=52563.msg976567#msg976567 date=1248963123]
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    You have no issues with:

    Cards:
    What the hell is one more year gonna give them even if Warner does good this year?
    At somepoint they need to have another QB ready.
    Lienart perhaps? Same same for the Titans.
    What happens if Collins doesn't keep overachieving either this year or the next. Issues

    Giants: Comeon, the real Eli is gonna show up this year now that he doesn't have Plex anymore.
    Go check thier wins/losses with/without Plex.
    Hell, the only time Eli ever has a good December is when he has Plex at home or he isn't playing at home.
    Dude throws such a floater that he is all over the place in the cold and wind.

    Dolphins:
    Although this appears to be a nice thing up front, it is really kindof a slam on him.
    Seriously, to keep the offense moving they had to come up with a scheme that took the ball out of his hands?
    Gimme a break.

    Long story short, look real hard at em.
    I just don't see alot of good ones starting, let alone anything that resembles a quality backup.

    On a side note.........Falcons:
    So would I.

    so you don't think that Eli is a better situation than TJ/Sage?
    I sure do, as much as I dislike him

    Dolphins, can be argued either way, regardless, Pennington was one of the guys I really wanted when he was available

    Warner should be fien for another year, then they have Leinart, who if you're going to write off, then might as well say to hell with TJ.
    Leinart has had less time to prove himself than TJ has.
    Still, IMO a fine option to start in two years.
    [/quote]
    Lienart has had less of a chance than TJ?
    If that cat could play he would be on the field.
    By he by, he and TJ were drafted in the same draft class right?

    http://www.mynfldraft.com/2006/round2/

    Look this isn't something new.
    The state of the QB position in this league right now is horrendous and I've been hacking on it for a long time.

    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/in...6408#msg856408

    By the way,

    QB 1
    Matt Leinart SR 6-5/217/- USC Santa Ana, CA
    QB 2
    Vince Young JR 6-5/233/- Texas Houston, TX
    QB 3
    Jay Cutler SR 6-4/225/- Vanderbilt Lincoln City, IN
    QB 4
    Brodie Croyle SR 6-2.5/206/- Alabama Rainbow City, AL
    QB 5
    Charlie Whitehurst SR 6-4/215/4.75 Clemson Alpharetta, GA
    QB 6
    Kellen Clemens SR 6-2/218/- Oregon Burns, OR
    QB 7
    Omar Jacobs JR 6-4/210/- Bowling Green Delray Beach, FL
    QB 8
    Ingle Martin SR 6-3/219/- Furman Nashville, TN
    QB 9
    Darrell Hackney SR 6-1/230/- UAB Atlanta, GA
    QB 10
    Reggie McNeal SR 6-2/206/- Texas A&M Lufkin, TX
    QB 11
    Bruce Gradkowski SR 6-2/210/- Toledo Pittsburgh, PA
    QB 12
    D.J. Shockley SR 6-1/206/- Georgia College Park, GA
    QB 13
    Brett Basanez SR 6-2/210/- Northwestern Arlington Hts, IL
    QB 14
    Erik Meyer SR 6-2/210/- Eastern Washington La Mirada, CA
    QB 15
    Paul Pinegar SR 6-4/220/- Fresno State Woodland, CA
    QB 16
    Travaris Jackson SR -/-/- Alabama State

    Your a new GM and are rebuilding a team.
    Which cat would have you taken and when? ;D
    [/quote]

    So, wouldn't that shift the blame to the coaching staff?
    Since there are very few franchise-type QBs in the league it is up to the coaching staff to make the Trent Dilfer's of the world shine by capitalizing on the team's strengths.
    [/quote]
    A very good point.
    I guess you could make a good point on that, however, with what they now get from the collegiate level (Spread Offense) it isn't like they just have to take a guy and tweek him.

    Most of those cats these days don't even take snaps under Center.
    Sounds silly but you shouldn't have to teach a kid how to get out from under center without getting stepped on, at the right angle to get the ball to a RB hitting the edge or just flat out reading a defense under Center.

    Hard damn job to evaluate them on tape as well as you don't get to see them do the stuff you are gonna ask them to do.
    Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/josdin00/Vikings/Marrdro_sig.jpg

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    Re: The real question for next season....

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=i_bleed_purple link=topic=52563.msg976582#msg976582 date=1248963922]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=52563.msg976574#msg976574 date=1248963473]
    [quote author=i_bleed_purple link=topic=52563.msg976569#msg976569 date=1248963225]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=52563.msg976567#msg976567 date=1248963123]
    When you start a new topic, just start a new poll and then fill in the blanks.

    As to the new HC.
    I really think it all depends on the stadium effort.
    If the ownership group feels that there is not hope in getting a deal done, they will stay with the Chiller as they seem to like consistency at the top.

    If they believe they can get a deal done but it would take sacking his jiggly butt, I would like to see two changes....

    a.
    We get a real GM.
    My choice would be a EXPUKER
    now I'm officially scared
    b.
    We get a HC that likes both the WCO and Cover 2.
    (Chucky).
    Please god no.
    Get a WCO coordinator and a cover 2 coordinator, but not chucky.

    He successfully took Dungy's superbowl calibre team and blew it to pieces.
    not to mention their QB situation has been as big of a joke as ours has.
    (almost)

    LOL, in case you haven't noticed, the whole league has issues with the QB position.
    Not sure why that escapes almost everyone on this site.

    :-*
    :-*
    :-*
    Bills: Trent Edwards > our situation
    Dolphins: Pennington, nothimg more to be said
    Pats.... yup
    Jets: bigger problem
    Ravens: Looking good with Flacco
    Steelers: No problems here
    Browns; Their problem is having two decent options.. wish we had that problem
    Bengals; a healthy Palmer is a good QB
    Texans; Issue
    Colts: manning.. wish we had him
    Jags: Garrard > TJ
    Titans: almost-issue
    Denver: Issue
    Oakland; Issue, but has Garcia as a backup, which is better than what we have
    KC:Issue
    SD: good to go
    Cowboys: decent shape
    Giants: works for them
    Eagles: McNabb is still a
    top QB
    Redskins: Campbell is playing better than TJ, but Issue
    Bears: Cutler is a vast improvement
    Lions: Issue
    Packers: Looking fine for now
    Falcons: I'dlove to have Ryan
    Panthers: Issue
    Saints: Ha... i'd say they're set
    Bucs: Issues
    Seahawks Issues
    Cards: no issues
    9ers Issues
    Rams: issues that are far beyond just QB

    I count 13 teams with clear issues, many of which are still better shape QB wise than us.
    I'd saythat is cause for at least slight concern.
    You have no issues with:

    Cards:
    What the hell is one more year gonna give them even if Warner does good this year?
    At somepoint they need to have another QB ready.
    Lienart perhaps? Same same for the Titans.
    What happens if Collins doesn't keep overachieving either this year or the next. Issues

    Giants: Comeon, the real Eli is gonna show up this year now that he doesn't have Plex anymore.
    Go check thier wins/losses with/without Plex.
    Hell, the only time Eli ever has a good December is when he has Plex at home or he isn't playing at home.
    Dude throws such a floater that he is all over the place in the cold and wind.

    Dolphins:
    Although this appears to be a nice thing up front, it is really kindof a slam on him.
    Seriously, to keep the offense moving they had to come up with a scheme that took the ball out of his hands?
    Gimme a break.

    Long story short, look real hard at em.
    I just don't see alot of good ones starting, let alone anything that resembles a quality backup.

    On a side note.........Falcons:
    So would I.

    so you don't think that Eli is a better situation than TJ/Sage?
    I sure do, as much as I dislike him

    Dolphins, can be argued either way, regardless, Pennington was one of the guys I really wanted when he was available

    Warner should be fien for another year, then they have Leinart, who if you're going to write off, then might as well say to hell with TJ.
    Leinart has had less time to prove himself than TJ has.
    Still, IMO a fine option to start in two years.
    [/quote]
    Lienart has had less of a chance than TJ?
    If that cat could play he would be on the field.
    By he by, he and TJ were drafted in the same draft class right?

    http://www.mynfldraft.com/2006/round2/

    Look this isn't something new.
    The state of the QB position in this league right now is horrendous and I've been hacking on it for a long time.

    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/in...6408#msg856408

    By the way,

    QB 1
    Matt Leinart SR 6-5/217/- USC Santa Ana, CA
    QB 2
    Vince Young JR 6-5/233/- Texas Houston, TX
    QB 3
    Jay Cutler SR 6-4/225/- Vanderbilt Lincoln City, IN
    QB 4
    Brodie Croyle SR 6-2.5/206/- Alabama Rainbow City, AL
    QB 5
    Charlie Whitehurst SR 6-4/215/4.75 Clemson Alpharetta, GA
    QB 6
    Kellen Clemens SR 6-2/218/- Oregon Burns, OR
    QB 7
    Omar Jacobs JR 6-4/210/- Bowling Green Delray Beach, FL
    QB 8
    Ingle Martin SR 6-3/219/- Furman Nashville, TN
    QB 9
    Darrell Hackney SR 6-1/230/- UAB Atlanta, GA
    QB 10
    Reggie McNeal SR 6-2/206/- Texas A&M Lufkin, TX
    QB 11
    Bruce Gradkowski SR 6-2/210/- Toledo Pittsburgh, PA
    QB 12
    D.J. Shockley SR 6-1/206/- Georgia College Park, GA
    QB 13
    Brett Basanez SR 6-2/210/- Northwestern Arlington Hts, IL
    QB 14
    Erik Meyer SR 6-2/210/- Eastern Washington La Mirada, CA
    QB 15
    Paul Pinegar SR 6-4/220/- Fresno State Woodland, CA
    QB 16
    Travaris Jackson SR -/-/- Alabama State

    Your a new GM and are rebuilding a team.
    Which cat would have you taken and when? ;D
    [/quote]

    So, wouldn't that shift the blame to the coaching staff?
    Since there are very few franchise-type QBs in the league it is up to the coaching staff to make the Trent Dilfer's of the world shine by capitalizing on the team's strengths.
    [/quote]
    A very good point.
    I guess you could make a good point on that, however, with what they now get from the collegiate level (Spread Offense) it isn't like they just have to take a guy and tweek him.

    Most of those cats these days don't even take snaps under Center.
    Sounds silly but you shouldn't have to teach a kid how to get out from under center without getting stepped on, at the right angle to get the ball to a RB hitting the edge or just flat out reading a defense under Center.

    Hard damn job to evaluate them on tape as well as you don't get to see them do the stuff you are gonna ask them to do.
    [/quote]

    Yes, not totally easy to evaluate them, but, it isn't that difficult either if that's what you do for a living.
    If you're a scout/FO dude and have access to hours of tapes, discussions, camps, practices etc. it is possible to evaluate them and be reasonably sure that they are who you are looking for.
    It is difficult to tell if they'll make the leap into starting material in the NFL though.
    That comes from coaching and from their ability to progress on their own in real-time games.

    I have to agree that there aren't many franchise QBs in the league, but there are plenty of QBs that get the job done and aren't surrounded with the talent that the Vikings currently have on their squad.
    One of the hack QBs on the team should be able to get the job done.

    As far as the original statement in this thread goes, I bet Childress is still here next year unless he doesn't make the playoffs.
    It's good to see that there are many good options out there.
    I'm guessing they'll go with Shanahan if Childress gets tossed to the sharks.
    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain

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