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    Re:Is a potential lockout affecting signings?

    As for owners vs players and the profit margin. I have no problems with the owners getting a good return on their investment and players getting their fair share. But in the end, it's the fans that get screwed with ticket prices, outrageous beer, hotdog and parking costs, higher priced NFL gear, and games being played on cable stations where you have to pay extra i.e. NFL Network.

    I can guarantee the fans will NOT be taken into consideration during the new CBA talks.
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    Re:Is a potential lockout affecting signings?

    gagarr wrote:
    As for owners vs players and the profit margin. I have no problems with the owners getting a good return on their investment and players getting their fair share. But in the end, it's the fans that get screwed with ticket prices, outrageous beer, hotdog and parking costs, higher priced NFL gear, and games being played on cable stations where you have to pay extra i.e. NFL Network.

    I can guarantee the fans will NOT be taken into consideration during the new CBA talks.
    Agreed, in addition the end of subsidized small market teams with revenue sharing will place those teams at a financial and competitive disadvantage.
    Then parity will become parody and the NFL will be more like baseball.

    The Jerry Jones' and Daniel Snyders will get their wish.

    The NFL franchise will begin to decline a bit.
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    Re:Is a potential lockout affecting signings?

    gagarr wrote:
    As for owners vs players and the profit margin. I have no problems with the owners getting a good return on their investment and players getting their fair share. But in the end, it's the fans that get screwed with ticket prices, outrageous beer, hotdog and parking costs, higher priced NFL gear, and games being played on cable stations where you have to pay extra i.e. NFL Network.

    I can guarantee the fans will NOT be taken into consideration during the new CBA talks.
    Disagree a little bit. All the money that is being divided up between the owners and the players is coming from the fans. The NFL puts out a product and the fans determine what its worth. As long as we are willing to keep paying higher prices, the NFL will keep raising them and then decide who should get it.

    If the new CBA ends up turning fans off, it will lead to reduced revenue and reduced valuation of the NFL franchise. This will hurt owners and players alike. Doesn't mean they still won't find a way to screw it up (as Jargo points out), but fans are the key to their meal ticket and they know it. The NFL is just looking at the impact to fans differently then what the fans are looking at it

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    Re:Is a potential lockout affecting signings?

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    Re:Is a potential lockout affecting signings?

    gagarr wrote:
    As for owners vs players and the profit margin. I have no problems with the owners getting a good return on their investment and players getting their fair share. But in the end, it's the fans that get screwed with ticket prices, outrageous beer, hotdog and parking costs, higher priced NFL gear, and games being played on cable stations where you have to pay extra i.e. NFL Network.

    I can guarantee the fans will NOT be taken into consideration during the new CBA talks.
    Fans are ALWAYS taken into consideration as they are the source of revenue.

    You are right though, they will not discuss lowering prices because the fans PAY it. Simple supply and demand there.

    If the fans want the voices heard, they simply have to say "I will not fork out $75.99 for a replica jersey. I will not fork our $65.00 for nosebleed seats. I will not pay $5.00 for a hot dog. I will not pay $350.00 to get the Sunday Ticket." Problem is ... fans won't say this. That falls on the fans, not on the owners/players.

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    Re:Is a potential lockout affecting signings?

    I agree with Midge

    Fans are the main sourse of revenue, so they will be taken into account. However, slight adjustments up or down won't make a difference. The NFL is a business, not a public service. If they're making money with $65 nosebleeds and $300 jerseys (They are), there is absolutely no reason for them to lower the prices.

    So yes, fans get taken into account, but the discussion won't be "How can we give fans a break", it will be "How can we get fans to spend MORE?"

    If that means lowering prices, assuming they buy more, then they may do that. If they see a decrease in sales recently, and think at a higher price, the sales will stay the same still, they'll do that.

    Its why teams can raise ticket prices. If they sell out, they're going to sell out regardless of a few dollars increase.

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    Re:Is a potential lockout affecting signings?

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    I agree with Midge

    Fans are the main sourse of revenue, so they will be taken into account. However, slight adjustments up or down won't make a difference. The NFL is a business, not a public service. If they're making money with $65 nosebleeds and $300 jerseys (They are), there is absolutely no reason for them to lower the prices.

    So yes, fans get taken into account, but the discussion won't be "How can we give fans a break", it will be "How can we get fans to spend MORE?"

    If that means lowering prices, assuming they buy more, then they may do that. If they see a decrease in sales recently, and think at a higher price, the sales will stay the same still, they'll do that.

    Its why teams can raise ticket prices. If they sell out, they're going to sell out regardless of a few dollars increase.
    I think they should give us all of it at a discount. Heck, they are doing it for the love of the game anyways right? :laugh:

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    I agree with the people that say the fans are taken into consideration as they are the biggest revenue source. But it’s more like “How much will the fans pay before we start losing them?” There is a point of diminishing return and the NFL WILL push to find it. The problem is they have a monopoly on major league professional football, so us football fans really can’t look elsewhere thus we pay what we have to.

    The more players want the more owners will have to increase the revenue to pay for them as well as make a ROI.
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