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    Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

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    POSTED 7:22 a.m. EST, November 30, 2005



    VIKINGS FACE QB DILEMMA IN 2006

    With quarterback Brad Johnson playing as well or better in 2005 than he did during his first stint with the club and with quarterback Daunte Culpepper facing a long-term rehab to go with his long-term contract, the Minnesota Vikings suddenly face an intriguing dilemma at the position, the likes of which they haven't seen since the last time Brad Johnson wore purple.

    In 1998, Johnson broke a leg in Week Two after getting hit on a play that was blown dead. Enter Randall Cunningham, who authored one of the best quarterback seasons in league history, due in large part to the presence of receivers Cris Carter, Jake Reed, and Randy Moss, along with vastly underrated running back Robert Smith.

    Near the end of the season, the Vikes signed the older Cunningham to a long-term deal, and after the season the Vikings shipped Johnson to the 'Skins for a Lawrence Welk pack of picks.

    With the first-rounder acquired in the trade, the Vikings selected Daunte Culpepper.

    Six years later, Johnson returned as a backup. As Culpepper suffered through arguably the worst season of his career, we were wondering when/if Johnson might get a shot at fixing the Minny mess.

    But fate intervened again on October 30, in the form of three torn ligaments in Culpepper's right knee.

    Exactly one month later, the Vikings have won every game Johnson has started, via a patient, deliberate offensive attack and a defense that is bending without breaking while taking full advantage of every "look what I found" that comes their way.

    At 6-5 with a relatively soft schedule down the stretch, the team that virtually everyone wrote off now has a legitimate shot at the postseason. Although most pundits assume that the Vikes can't compete with the Falcons, Bucs, Panthers, Cowboys, and/or Giants for a wild-card berth, those teams face tougher slates of games -- including plenty of head-to-head battles.

    We're not suggesting that the Vikings can stretch their four-game streak to nine, but a 4-1 finish likely will earn them a seat at the table.

    If that happens, what do they do in 2006? On Tuesday, Culpepper issued a "thank you" statement that, in our view, was more of a "don't forget about me even though I was only 2-5 as the starter" gesture.

    Since most veteran quarterbacks sign only one-year deals, plenty of league insiders believe that Johnson will be on the market -- and in big demand -- come March. But the Vikings had the foresight to sign Johnson to a four-year deal, which pays him a salary of $1 million this year, $1 million next year, $1.1 million in 2006, and $1.1 million in 2007.

    So now, a full seven years after the team had to choose between Johnson and Cunningham, the franchise is faced with Johnson and the quarterback they acquired with one of the picks they got when they traded Johnson the last time.

    This time around, the best move for the Vikings is to stand pat. Culpepper's rehab will be a slow road, and he might not be ready to start next season. Sure, there's nothing like the presence of Johnson to push 'Pepper to work harder than ever to get back onto the field, and to step up his game. But Daunte was dreadful in 2005, and the Vikes could seize upon his injury as a way to justify giving Johnson the No. 1 spot on the depth chart for 2006.

    If nothing else, the performance of Johnson -- who already has won half of the games in 2005 that Culpepper managed in 2004 amid a statistically stellar year -- might help Daunte learn how to finally become a consistent winner.


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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

    good read jamie. i don't think it'll be a QB dilema next season. i doubt that Daunte would lose his starting position to an injury, organizations rarely do that.

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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

    Agreed, but he does raise some interesting points. I'm not saying it should or should not happen, but makes you think a little. If and when CPep comes back and stinks it up again, what then? It's just a little food for thought.

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    Depending on his off season work and the game shape he is in he should start IMO.

    But if he starts struggling for gods sake pull him out and let him watch fpr a bit.

    Then see how he works in practice and give him another shot. Repeat as neccissary

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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

    The only way I see a dilema is if Daunte still isnt healthy by training camp.

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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

    That's bull, there will be no QB dilemna next year. Johnson was brought in to be a backup and come in should Culpepper go down. Culpepper went down, Johnson has stepped in and is doing tremendous, but realistically, he's got 3 years left max. He's not a long term answer, and the organization has already invested a lot in Culpepper. Plus, we've seen what this guy can do, when he's playing to his potential.
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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

    Noone said Brad is a long-term option, the issue is, what about '06. I personally think that there will be a huge controversy, especially if we make the playoffs or the NFC Championship Game.

    Let's face it, there is no such thing as a guaranteed position in the NFL. You have to earn it week to week. Daunte doesn't deserve to be the QB just based on past performance (!).

    On the other hand, I would much rather have to decide between Brad and Daunte than say, between Harrington and Garcia. :roll:

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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

    Unlikely. It's WAY too risky to expect a QB in his late 30's to have two good seasons in a row. He might, but there is far too much of a risk that he won't. Remember in '99, when Cunningham suddenly fell from grace? What about 2000, when George became his old self again? It's easier for a young QB to learn and rebound from a bad season than it is for an aging quarterback to keep his body in shape. It gets really hard late in a player's career. We'd be risking a lot more with Brad, Shaun Hill, or (insert raw, inexperienced first-round draft pick here).


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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

    "BBQ Platypus" wrote:
    Unlikely. It's WAY too risky to expect a QB in his late 30's to have two good seasons in a row. He might, but there is far too much of a risk that he won't. Remember in '99, when Cunningham suddenly fell from grace? What about 2000, when George became his old self again? It's easier for a young QB to learn and rebound from a bad season than it is for an aging quarterback to keep his body in shape. It gets really hard late in a player's career. We'd be risking a lot more with Brad, Shaun Hill, or (insert raw, inexperienced first-round draft pick here).
    Just as risky to assume a QB with an exploded knee will return and step right into his role unquestioned. There will definately be a lot of eyes on Daunte that is certain.

    The way he plays it makes it even worse.

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    Re: Possible QB dilema in 06" ???

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    POSTED 7:22 a.m. EST, November 30, 2005



    VIKINGS FACE QB DILEMMA IN 2006

    ...

    This time around, the best move for the Vikings is to stand pat. Culpepper's rehab will be a slow road, and he might not be ready to start next season. Sure, there's nothing like the presence of Johnson to push 'Pepper to work harder than ever to get back onto the field, and to step up his game. But Daunte was dreadful in 2005, and the Vikes could seize upon his injury as a way to justify giving Johnson the No. 1 spot on the depth chart for 2006.

    If nothing else, the performance of Johnson -- who already has won half of the games in 2005 that Culpepper managed in 2004 amid a statistically stellar year -- might help Daunte learn how to finally become a consistent winner.


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    That last paragraph sums it up pretty good. Hopefully Daunte learns from this because there is no doubt with his contract, youth and talent he will be given the helm next season and it will be his to lose ... there will be no dilemma if he performs ...
    Also, I don't know that BJ really would get all that demand. While I am very happy with his performance, his arm is definitely weaker than it was just a few years ago (and it was never strong) and there are numerous passes he just cannot make. I dont think many people would be chasing him for anything other than a GREAT Veteran back-up. I think most people are sending the credit to the ball control and the defense right now ... BJ is doing a great job, but he is not WINNING the games he is just doing what it takes not to lose them ... a valuable lesson that C-Pep could learn.

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