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    Love it!

    FYI - Ponder was 17 for 20 on passing of first and second downs.

    For those who need help with the math, that is 85%.

    The shitty start had more to do with the play calling. They were running the ball constantly on first and second down, and Ponder was left with third and long. When our coaching staff finally pulled their heads out and began passing on first and second to set up the run, we started owning the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodakPaul View Post
    Love it!

    FYI - Ponder was 17 for 20 on passing of first and second downs.

    For those who need help with the math, that is 85%.

    The shitty start had more to do with the play calling. They were running the ball constantly on first and second down, and Ponder was left with third and long. When our coaching staff finally pulled their heads out and began passing on first and second to set up the run, we started owning the game.
    To be fair, I will point out that Ponder was 3 for 7 on third downs, and that isn't good. Almost all of those were third and longs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NodakPaul View Post
    Love it!

    FYI - Ponder was 17 for 20 on passing of first and second downs.

    For those who need help with the math, that is 85%.

    The shitty start had more to do with the play calling. They were running the ball constantly on first and second down, and Ponder was left with third and long. When our coaching staff finally pulled their heads out and began passing on first and second to set up the run, we started owning the game.

    I still think the shitty start had more to do with not being allowed to play last week. It took awhile for him & others that were rested to get going. Otherwise we might have scored earlier.

    I'm not so concerned with Ponder's ability to deliver the ball in his quest for 75% completion on 1st & 2nd down as I am our receivers ability to catch the ball, which I've mentioned before. I'm still impressed with both Jenkins & Aromashodu catching 3 passes each without dropping them. Especially on some critical plays. As you mentioned, I don't think we can count on that being the norm, but that's what I'd like to see.

    3 of Ponder's passes were behind the LOS to Harvin. Those passes usually result in a gain of zilch or maybe 1 or 2. Harvin really turned those into positive yards. I don't know if we can count on that working as well against better defenses, but I enjoyed seeing that this week.

    3 for 7 on 3rd down is still an issue, but if we convert/score on 1st or 2nd, we can reduce the number of 3rd downs we see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    I still think the shitty start had more to do with not being allowed to play last week. It took awhile for him & others that were rested to get going. Otherwise we might have scored earlier.
    I don't disagree with this.
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    I don't think it was as much not playing last week as it was what they were doing personnel and scheme wise. Once they committed to getting percy the ball and put him in the backfield they started to dominate the game. It also seems that once they lost that OG that their offense slowed and our defense was more successful against them.

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    Good for him.

    We also need some tude on the field. Anyone else notice that the Jags quit their crap real quit when Harrison layed the lumber and got up on the guy which was followed by Chad doing the same after making a nice play on a short throw?

    Made me want to strap it on and talk some shit. Quick note, I let a Take that M.....r F...r out on the Harrison hit.
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    Update: Ponder is 20./27 on the season. 74%. not too shabby. I dont' have a breakdown of his first and second down throws though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    Ask Ray Edwards what fans here thought of his goal, as just 1 example.

    For many fans here, it's all about who's setting the goal. It can be "great to see he's setting a high goal" if he's a well liked player or "He needs to just shut his pie-hole and prove it on the field", if he's not well liked.
    Do you really think these players put that much thought into what the fans think when they say things like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_bleed_purple View Post
    Update: Ponder is 20./27 on the season. 74%. not too shabby. I dont' have a breakdown of his first and second down throws though.
    Someone thought I was crazy when I put a bench mark of 60% on him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i_bleed_purple View Post
    Update: Ponder is 20./27 on the season. 74%. not too shabby. I dont' have a breakdown of his first and second down throws though.
    17/20 on first and second downs. 85%.

    Yup.
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