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    Instability at the quarterback position is what has doomed this team for the past 15 years and jumping to someone new, especially a flash in the pan Heisman winner like Griffen, is football ignorance at its finest.

    Peyton Manning and Troy Aikmen....two guys that both won ONE game their rookie year AND threw more touchdowns than interceptions. (26 and 28 for Manning, 9 and 18 for Aikmen) I'm not saying Ponder will be either of those guys, but you can't learn a lot about a quarterback's future based upon his rookie performance.

    To give up on Ponder now would be short-sighted and ignorant. There are too many variables - a new system, no TC or mini-camps, new coaches across the board, a poor O-Line, an injury riddled star running back and a talent-poor receiving corps - to pass any type of judgment on Ponder after seven starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Floyd View Post
    Denny Green didn't seem to have a problem having serviceable backups. It just takes a little focus by the GM to make sure the most important position on the team is covered if something should happen.
    Do not forget. Denny had an offensive line full of pro bowlers. He also had Reed and Carter. He could plug any buss driver with an arm in there and succeed.
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallvike View Post
    Do not forget. Denny had an offensive line full of pro bowlers. He also had Reed and Carter. He could plug any buss driver with an arm in there and succeed.
    Yes. And that is why some of us have been so adamant that the team needs to get quality players on the OL and in the WR group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ltrey33 View Post
    Instability at the quarterback position is what has doomed this team for the past 15 years and jumping to someone new, especially a flash in the pan Heisman winner like Griffen, is football ignorance at its finest.

    Peyton Manning and Troy Aikmen....two guys that both won ONE game their rookie year AND threw more touchdowns than interceptions. (26 and 28 for Manning, 9 and 18 for Aikmen) I'm not saying Ponder will be either of those guys, but you can't learn a lot about a quarterback's future based upon his rookie performance.

    To give up on Ponder now would be short-sighted and ignorant. There are too many variables - a new system, no TC or mini-camps, new coaches across the board, a poor O-Line, an injury riddled star running back and a talent-poor receiving corps - to pass any type of judgment on Ponder after seven starts.
    I think you mean threw more interceptions than touchdowns. And Manning actually won 3 games his rookie year. Aikman, on the other hand, won ZERO games his rookie year.

    I agree that giving up on Ponder would be crazy. I would ONLY do so if we get a shot at Andrew Luck (without having to give up something to trade up for him) ... which it looks like we will not get now.

    I personally like Ponder and think we will be fine with him if we address some other needs on this teams (primarily the offensive line and secondary, but there are definitely some other issues that need addressed as well).

    I will be completely willing to throw Ponder to the wolves if he shows no improvement next year (ala Colt McCoy with the Browns) ... but I definitely want him starting game one next season (again, unless we get a shot at Andrew Luck).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Floyd View Post
    Yes. And that is why I have been so adamant that the team needs to get quality players in the WR group.
    Fixed it for you
    I am NOT here to provide good football insight or rational observations. I am an emotional 19 year old Viking fan and I expect you to adjust your expectations from my posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12purplepride28 View Post
    Fixed it for you
    Your fix is as bad as the fixes we have been getting for years. No thanks.

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    At this point while I like Ponder and feel he has made progress, I feel it woul be a huge mistake to not at least look at bringing in someone to challenge him or even to give Webb every shot to unseat him. Competition is a good thing and you can never have too many QBs on the roster unless you are lucky like GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Floyd View Post
    Yes. And that is why some of us have been so adamant that the team needs to get quality players on the OL and in the WR group.
    Myself included. Every year I pine for the top OLman available. (That is until draft day when I cave into QB fever.) My belief is no QB will succeed until the offensive line is solid. We have ignored the Oline too long.
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallvike View Post
    Myself included. Every year I pine for the top OLman available. (That is until draft day when I cave into QB fever.) My belief is no QB will succeed until the offensive line is solid. We have ignored the Oline too long.
    I agree, we need to get an OT more than anything at this point. Give Ponder some time back there, then get him weapons, not the other way around. I can live with our QB not having anyone to through to, but not with him having no time to throw to a superstar WR. Our WRs aren't as bad as our OL anyways. The talent level of Jenkins, Harvin, and Aromoshadu, with Rudolph and Shank thrown in, is greater than that of our OL.
    I am NOT here to provide good football insight or rational observations. I am an emotional 19 year old Viking fan and I expect you to adjust your expectations from my posts.

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    What kind of OT do we need? Is the blocking scheme going to be more of a ZB/run + MB/Pass or straight up MB? Does the coordinator want agile, Mobile OL who can pull and move around a bit or big road graders who just steamroll the defense? IMHO part of the OL problems have been that we have both types so the unit as a whole doesn't do either well.

    Is the best OT in the draft suited to what the Vikings are going to run? Or at least try to run?

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