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    I just keep wondering how wonderful Viking land would be if instead of this reach:

    With the 12th pick of the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State

    We had made this reach instead:

    With the 12th pick of the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

    I know it is unfair to Ponder to compare, it is not his fault the Vikes fucked up ... but it is our fault if we stick with him much longer.

    Here is to hoping Ponder proves me wrong in the next couple of weeks ... but I don't think he will.

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    Ponder=Ryan Leaf

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    Agree!

    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    I just keep wondering how wonderful Viking land would be if instead of this reach:

    With the 12th pick of the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State

    We had made this reach instead:

    With the 12th pick of the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

    I know it is unfair to Ponder to compare, it is not his fault the Vikes fucked up ... but it is our fault if we stick with him much longer.

    Here is to hoping Ponder proves me wrong in the next couple of weeks ... but I don't think he will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RK. View Post
    Ponder=Ryan Leaf
    Not even close.

    1) Leaf was thought to be as good as Manning entering the draft. In fact, the big debate was who Indy was going to select first, Manning or Leaf. Ponder was never considered to be that strong of a QB entering the draft, so while he may be a bust, he can never be as big of a bust because expectations were never as high.

    2) San Diego traded its third overall pick, a future first round pick, a second round pick, and three-time Pro Bowler Eric Metcalf to the Arizona Cardinals to move up one spot to the second overall pick and get Leaf. Ponder was drafted at #12 overall, with no trades. The Vikings did not pay anywhere near the price for Ponder that San Diego did for Leaf.

    Ponder=Ponder. That is it. Trying to compare him to arguably one of the worst busts in NFL history is going off the deep end more than a little bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    I just keep wondering how wonderful Viking land would be if instead of this reach:

    With the 12th pick of the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State

    We had made this reach instead:

    With the 12th pick of the 2011 NFL Draft, the Minnesota Vikings select Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

    I know it is unfair to Ponder to compare, it is not his fault the Vikes fucked up ... but it is our fault if we stick with him much longer.

    Here is to hoping Ponder proves me wrong in the next couple of weeks ... but I don't think he will.
    TE Vernon Davis 6th pick rd1
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    maybe CP wonders what it would've been like to be drafted by the 49rs. Just sayin'
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NodakPaul View Post
    It could be worse. We could have Geno Smith.
    Ponder had more turnovers than Smith did Thursday night.

    "If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    Ponder had more turnovers than Smith did Thursday night.
    I take it you didn't watch the game on Thursday night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moss View Post
    I take it you didn't watch the game on Thursday night?
    I take it you didn't.

    Smith: 3 INT's, 0 Fumbles

    Ponder: 3 INT's, 1 Fumbles

    Unless my math is bad 4>3

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    Ponder had more turnovers than Smith did Thursday night.
    so is this your point for wanting Smith? His QB rating is 55 over 2 games, don't get me wrong I'm not looking to polish Ponder he has been bad terrible whatever but Smith....really

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    Unless my math is bad 4>3
    Your turnover math is bad, 3 is better than 4 so it should be 3>4 in this case.

    Quote Originally Posted by vikinggreg View Post
    so is this your point for wanting Smith? His QB rating is 55 over 2 games, don't get me wrong I'm not looking to polish Ponder he has been bad terrible whatever but Smith....really
    To be fair, Smith has 2 career starts vs Ponders 27. Also you're comparing week 1 of Ponder to week 2 of Smith, lets wait to see how Ponder does vs the Bores. It could be ugly. Plus Smith out played Ponder in week 1. Plus Smith had to play in the pouring rain at New England, Ponder was in a dome vs the kitties. Brady didn't look very good either. However those were some poorly thrown INT's by Geno, and I'm not suggesting I would take Smith over Ponder at this point. Oh heck maybe I would, my patience has run out on Ponder.

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