Thread: Ponder Showed Enough
09-09-2013, 11:23 AM #11
09-09-2013, 11:35 AM #12Starter
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09-09-2013, 11:48 AM #13
There have been plenty of successful QBs with less than cannon arms, but if you don't have one you have to make up for it by reading defenses, escaping pressure, having a pocket presence, and being accurate. Ponder has shown no consistency in any of those areas. What chaps me is all these first and second year QBs lighting it up and here is Ponder in year three and looking the same as he did year one. It's depressing to watch.
09-09-2013, 12:33 PM #14Coordinator
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Ponder showed me enough. I'm sorry I held out hope as long as I did. Ponder is in a tailspin and taking the team with him.
Sure, the defense couldn't stop anything, but It would be difficult to win even if they did.
Ponder had more than a fair chance. Time for a change.
09-09-2013, 05:23 PM #15
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09-09-2013, 07:10 PM #16
Ponder goes through his progressions slower than Culpepper ever did, and Daunte was known for being slow in his progressions. Ponder gets the ball out slowly. His motion is not compact as he puts touch on all of his throws.
That wounded duck throw that was picked off look like Webb in the playoff game against the Packers, and Webb is now a wide receiver. I just watched that play unfold and shouted, "Don't throw that, Ponder!" Of course, he threw it.
The Lions came to play. The team had good players and good coaches even during last season's dismal showing. They added Bush as an extra weapon. With the passing threats the Lions already had, Bush gave the offense the ability to make teams pay for deep coverage.
The Vikings offensive line was outnumbered on many plays. There is no way five guys can block all of the guys the Lions used to take Peterson out of the game. With that, a good quarterback should have massive passing numbers.
The Vikings had no similar answer for Bush because he was left uncovered out of the backfield on so many plays that I wondered if the Vikings were playing with ten guys. When the Vikings played Tampa 2 or blitzed, the Lions sent Bush into the vacated zone. The Vikings vanilla defense got manhandled; the defensive line got almost no pressure; the whole back seven were out of position or just beaten. That does not even factor in the bad angles and poor tackles.
This was a team effort in a loss, but Ponder could not hit moving targets no matter what the stats say. Because of this, the Vikings have two choices: do not call plays that Ponder will miss on often, or suffer the interceptions.
Last edited by Minniman; 09-09-2013 at 10:27 PM.
09-09-2013, 09:26 PM #17
09-09-2013, 09:54 PM #18
I saw no growth and no improvement at all! In fact I think he regressed. He is a joke. He was a joke at FSU and we looked like a joke drafting him in the 1st round when in reality he would have went in the 5th round. He is garbage and we need to cut ties now.
09-09-2013, 10:32 PM #19
I get the most pissed off looks from people with my VKG 4 LFE Wisconsin license plate, and I LOVE IT!!
Ponder Showed Enough
I think he regressed too. He just has no confidence, no fire in his belly and apparently the wrong mindset to fix what needs to be fixed.