Thread: Ponderís Role Solidified?
01-09-2013, 10:39 AM #22
Jay Cutler is not much better than Ponder, if at all. He has a tremendous arm, unbelievably strong really, but has a ton of issues. His footwork is sloppy, causing him to rely on the arm too much. He holds the ball far too long. He makes awful throws on a frequent basis. You guys have watched him for a while now, do you really think he's that good?
Last edited by Ranger; 01-09-2013 at 10:45 AM.
01-09-2013, 10:55 AM #23
As far as physical talent, Ponder is easily #4, but that has never been a good indicator for a QB's success in this league.
01-09-2013, 11:25 AM #24
Just because a player wears purple doesn't mean he is good.
Cutler is a damn good QB. His biggest issues is his attitude and the way he is perceived. However, make no mistake, the guy is damn good. No team that Cutler is on, would be dead last in passing. Ponder is a bum. He's our bum but a bum. His 234 yards and 3 TDs... was a great Ponder game but it wasn't prolific. The kid is just the definition of average. I would swap Ponder for Cutler in a heart beat. I believe our FO would too.
LASTLY....people see to miss this point.... so please....
None of them plays with a running back that teams are putting 9...yes 9 in the box to stop. None. Not one. You give Stafford or Cutler 9 in the box and they would make the Hall of Fame. Our QB SUCKSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by kevoncox; 01-09-2013 at 11:33 AM.
01-09-2013, 11:37 AM #25
Cutler can throw laser beam passes down the field, unfortunately they frequently land in the chest and hands of the wrong guys on the field. When he's not hurling lightning bolts, he's holding onto the ball until somebody eventually sacks him.
His lifetime passer rating is an 84. In seven years, he has 36 more touchdowns than picks. A true "damn good" quarterback, Discount Double Dork, was +31...this year alone.
I'm not saying that Ponder is better than Cutler. I'm saying that the difference between them isn't this yawning chasm that people assume it is, particularly when you consider the results from this season. Cutler has worse protection? He also had a top NFL receiver healthy for the whole season. He has a running back that is one of (if not the best) the top pass receiving running backs in the league.
He's a middle of the road quarterback. Seven years in, it's probably all he's ever going to be. At least Ponder is young and can potentially evolve into a top flight guy, or at least a passer better than Cutler.
I could certainly pull up a video of ponder from any of his several sub 100 yard games and produce a fairly compelling video.
01-09-2013, 11:50 AM #27Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
Was someone actually posting fantasy football stats as a basis for a point?
01-09-2013, 12:04 PM #29
01-09-2013, 12:10 PM #30