Thread: Ponderís Role Solidified?
01-07-2013, 07:18 AM #1
Ponderís Role Solidified?
Vikingsí Finish May Have Solidified Ponderís Role
Vikings’ Finish May Have Solidified Ponder’s Role ę CBS Minnesota
"If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"
If we have Ponder and the rest of the division has Rodgers, Stafford and Cutler we may sneak in a playoff run here and there but will never be able to dominate the division over time or consistently make championship runs.
01-07-2013, 09:52 AM #3
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I don't think it solidifies anything. It tells us that Webb was not a viable alternative, and hopefully it silenced some of the more adamant fans... but there is no way that Ponder should be the defacto starter next season.
I do think he has earned the chance to compete for the starting spot. But I also think we need to bring in a serious candidate for the position in to compete with him.Zeus wrote:
When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?
01-07-2013, 09:57 AM #4Starter
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01-07-2013, 10:46 AM #5
The best thing Ponder did this year was stay healthy all season, until now. Almost all of the best QB's in the league rarely miss games. To me his not being able to go was a big negative on his season, worse than if he had just had a bad game(which I sorta expected).
I think he is probably the starter next year, and with better recievers and more experience he should get better. But if he can't stay healthy he won't be here for very long.
I really hope they don't go after any of the big name quarterbacks that could be available. They are available for a reason(no to Alex Smith, Tony Romo, Michael Vick).
01-08-2013, 12:16 PM #6
The checkbook will be opened again. A FA WR will be added, hopefully he is a big tall possession kindof guy and they might even spend on a older vet QB to come in and hold Ponders jock while he continues to learn on the field.
By this time next year, no one will be worrying about Ponder anymore, they will have moved on to bigger and better things like the new color of our "Away" uniforms.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
01-08-2013, 12:29 PM #7
Ponder: 81.2 QBR, 62.1%, 2935 yds, 6.1 avg, 18 tds / 12 ints
Cutler: 81.3 QBR, 58.8 %, 3033 yds, 7.0 avg, 19 tds / 14 ints
Stafford: 78.9 QBR, 59.8 %, 4967 yds, 6.8 avg, 20 tds / 17 ints
Ponder, in his second year, appears to be holding his own. This division, following quarterbacks and teams, is clearly Green Bay, then everybody else. The difference is, Cutler is probably not going to be anybody other than the Cutler we've seen. Stafford and Ponder still might improve, and I'd say the stacked boxes against Peterson are offset by the fact that Stafford has a much better group of receivers.
Lets not be too quick to write off Ponder. He's still a baby, and just because recent young quarterbacks have had immediate success (Newton, Luck, RGIII, Dalton, Ryan, Flacco) doesn't mean that they all can. Some need time (Brees), and some of those young players have regressed from their stellar rookie campaigns (Newton, Dalton).
01-08-2013, 12:34 PM #8
Lets not forget one thing, even though the offense revolved around AD the second half of the season, it didn't in the first half. Truth of the matter is, AD had something like 1 game of over 100 yards until Percy went down.
At one point, 4 or 5 games into the schedule young Ponder, with just Percy was the highest rated QB in accuracy. Percy and Welker were leading the league in catches and yardage and then the sky fell and Percy went down.
Then, and only then did AD take over.
And one more thing, even when AD took over, AD still got his yards with Ponder under center. Did anyone notice that he didn't with someone like Webb under center? Anyone, Buehler, Buehler?Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
01-08-2013, 01:56 PM #9
Ponder '11: 70.1 QBR, 54.3%, 1853 yds, 6.4 avg, 13tds / 13 ints
Ponder '12: 81.2 QBR, 62.1%, 2935 yds, 6.1 avg, 18tds / 12 ints
If he has a similar jump next season, will people still be calling to replace him? That would put him at...
Ponder '13: 92.3 QBR, 69.9%, 4017 yds, 5.8 avg, 23tds / 11ints
Obviously, the percentage would be asking a lot, and the average will probably stay around where it's been, but would the rest appeal to anybody here? Would it be a significant enough improvement to assume he's a franchise quarterback?
01-08-2013, 05:14 PM #10Starter
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