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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

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    I like it.

    http://www.startribune.com/photos/?c=y&img=1dome0718.jpg
    [img width=450 height=299]http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/1dome0718.jpg[/img]

    I am impressed that they were able to shave so much off the price by using some of the existing infrastructure.
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    Concrete Construction, espeicaly heavy construction, is very very expensive these days.
    Cement, sand, stone, and steel reinforcement products used in the construction, have almost double in cost during recent years.
    By them re-using some of the existing foundations of the Met.,
    I can easily see them shaving off $100 Mil or maybe even more......





    Lets just hope they get er done........ ;D
    Hey Ned, since you were in the concrete business I'll ask you if you know how much building techniques have change.
    Would rebuilding on a foundation built in 1980 have any safety issues.
    Just wonder with the bridge collapse and all the other safety inspections going on with the bridges (I know some bridges are more than 50 years old) is it a good idea to monkey with the foundation and rebuild on it.
    I'd like those answered as well, good questions there.

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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

    Concrete doesn't fully harden underground for hundreds of years. We should be alright.

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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

    [size=13pt]A new player emerges in the game to build new Vikings stadium[/size]

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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

    The Video gives a really good idea of what it would become. I'm not such a fan of the overall outlook. I really like the glass retractable wall which would view the skyline of the city...

    What kind of firm is this Ellerbe Brackett ??
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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

    The idea sounds feasible on paper as long as it's done properly and not purely on everthing being cheap. Mention is made about the field orientation being changed so that sun isn't a factor - surely then a lot of the current foundations that they look to reuse then would be completely out of position?

    One thing.. if the international games are still going at Wembley then I can see a Vikes game being a prime choice as the home team.
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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

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    The idea sounds feasible on paper as long as it's done properly and not purely on everthing being cheap. Mention is made about the field orientation being changed so that sun isn't a factor - surely then a lot of the current foundations that they look to reuse then would be completely out of position?

    One thing.. if the international games are still going at Wembley then I can see a Vikes game being a prime choice as the home team.
    Nope, if you look at the video, you see that the entire foundation is still used.
    The new stadium is considerable larger than the dome, so even though the field orientation changes, the foundation that used to be under the endzones is now under the sideline seats.
    I also like how the current sideline seats will become the endzone seats (well, at least the bown part of it, I am sure the seats will be upgraded. )

    Overall, it is a nice look IMHO.
    Keeps the horseshoe idea that is prevalent in new stadiums.
    I would guess that this would NOT have the acoustics of the dome though, so that would be a disadvantage.
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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

    Yet another great stadium plan.

    Unfortunately we have now seen 4 of these. Still waiting for one to come to fruition.
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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

    Awesome stuff... seems like they only use the concrete foundation and not the Metrodome's seating, which is nice. They are rotating the field 90%, looks sorta like Ford Field actually.

    Regardless, good looking stadium, let's just get it done.
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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

    [size=13pt]Vikings ask for palace; a stadium is plenty[/size]

    If the Vikings proposed a cheaper open-air stadium instead of one with a roof, taxpayers might consider it.

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    The kickoff to the real propaganda campaign for a new Vikings stadium occurred Thursday, when the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission called in the media to listen to a presentation from the architectural firm Ellerbe Becket....


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    Re: Plan to reuse parts of Dome in new stadium could save $100 million

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    Now this is more like it. It is good to see them trying to save money and reuse the existing space. Although I am not a fan of the current location. But this is a good idea from what I see if they can now just eliminate the retractable roof part of the equation and get that casino in there to pay for it.

    I was a bit surprised to see that they only predict an additional 32 million in revenue from it. According to my calculation they will need almost 30 years to generate enough revenue to get to break even if that is the case.I would have hoped for much more.
    factor in all the taxes paid by team personnel, employee's, surrounding business, and so on..theyl make the money back a heck of alot quicker than you expect when you factor everything affected by the new building
    That money is already being paid and generated now in the current stadium, so it is not new or additional
    That argument only works if you can guarantee the income stream will continue if you do nothing.
    This is a common economical mistake that people make when looking at cannibalized revenue from other sources.
    If doing nothing would lead to the Vikings leaving and the loss of that revenue, that revenue can be fully used to justify the cost to keep them and protect the revenue.
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