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    This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    This just in from Pioneer Press on the Stadium. Showdown time!

    http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_13458646?source=rss

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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    This will not happen.

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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    "DeathtoDenny" wrote:
    This will not happen.
    what won't?

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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    Don't really like the comments about not keeping the team in the market, but I guess the top brass thinks it's time to play hardball.

    I'm not worried about the team moving...yet.
    Rock out with your cock out!!!

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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    Why couldn't the Vikes meet the legislature halfway and build a dome instead of a retractable roof.
    That would save about 100 million right there.
    It would probably end up being a dome most of the time anyways because MN is frigid.
    Maybe the NFL could dangle the Super Bowl carrot in front of the legislators.

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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    No roof is fine for football, but think of all the things we could use the stadium for if it had one
    -Twins fest
    -Golf shows
    -State football playoffs
    -State soccer playoffs
    -'outdoor' nhl hockey
    -MLS exhibition
    -World Baseball Classic
    -Olympics is 10 years, or whenever it could be here after 2016
    -Concerts

    Not to mention all the jobs it would generate. Yes, most of those jobs would still be created roof or no roof.
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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    I am a big proponent for a roof, as most know, but I think it is time to look at this more realistically.

    Bagley said the team could build a high-end NFL stadium, with no roof, for $650 million.
    That is a considerable savings.
    I would be in favor of constructing a stadium with no roof, as long as there is the architectural option of putting a roof on it in the future.

    An RSM McGladrey analysis of state tax revenues from 1961-2006 estimates that Minnesota's pro sports teams have helped bring in a combined $345.4 million in taxes, 57 percent of that through personal income tax on payrolls. The rest is attributed to state and local sales, liquor, restaurant, entertainment and gross receipts taxes.

    According to the study, paid for by the facilities commission, the Vikings represent the highest individual business impact, $129 million in tax revenue since the team's inception.
    OK, so here is my proposal.


    State's Contribution:

    $129 million (from the taxes already collected and directly attributed to the Vikings)
    +$200 million (expected taxes directly attributed to the Vikings over 20 years)
    - $34 million (1/2 of the original cost of the dome)
    $295 million

    Viking's Contribution (matches State):
    $295 million

    That leaves a cost difference of $60 million.
    I vote that the State pick up the extra $60 million (since they will own the facility), and the Vikings agree to cover any cost overages in construction.
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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    "faninphx" wrote:
    Why couldn't the Vikes meet the legislature halfway and build a dome instead of a retractable roof.
    That would save about 100 million right there.
    It would probably end up being a dome most of the time anyways because MN is frigid.
    Maybe the NFL could dangle the Super Bowl carrot in front of the legislators.
    I would be OK with that too.
    Truth be told, I think the idea of a retractable roof is fun, but not even a little bit cost effective.
    I would rather it be another enclosed stadium.
    A lot of people (but not all) who yearn for the old days of the Met and the snow never actually went to a game at the Met in the snow... It sucked.
    A lot.

    But I also realize the no roof is cheaper than any roof, retractable or otherwise.
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    Maybe we could build a stadium with no roof and put heaters in the seats. or put the seats behind a glasswall all heated up.

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    OK, seriously. Having the TFC Bank Stadium in dinkytown, the Twinsstadium and the excel stadium in St Paul all competing for events. One of those have roofs but Im not so sure how the Wilds homearena stands in competetion for indoor events.

    I would opt for a roof, either a stationary one or a retractable one in order to draw events and revenue into the legislature during wintertime since there aint no competetion from the other stadiums. During the summertime for concerts etc I see there will be a competition between dinkystadium and a metrodome of old and new.

    And I say its madness having so many stadiums in such a small market, I wished we could have joined causes with the U of M or at least the Twins or the Wilds.

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    Re: This in From Pioneer Press...UHOH!

    This has failure written all over it. Not sure of anyone who will lobby taxpayers for $700M in the current economic climate.

    I think the possibility of the Vikings moving grows ever more realistic.
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