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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
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    "StillPurple" wrote:
    It is obvious to me that Peterson has not been quite as successful and devastating as people thought he would be. This began last year in the 49ers game, when the Niners defense stacked the box and Tarvaris could not throw us out of it. Every team after that has stacked the box against us. And it mostly has worked to keep AD from going nuts on them. The Vikings also have been very, very predictable in their playcalling, and have not gotten AD in space, for instance, by throwing the screen. This results in no lanes to run in. Unless the passing game can get us out of the stacked box, this will continue.
    Not often I agree with you StillPurple, but in this case, I very much do.

    AP's production is down from last year..
    but he's still AP.
    Just opposing defenses key on him.
    Their playcalling isn't necessarily taking advantage of this fact, either.
    Look what Ronnie Brown has done for the 'Fins.
    I'm not sure how you can say his production is down.
    He may not have 5.6 YPC but he has 102.9 YPG vs. 95.8 last year.
    I would say that's an increase in production.
    What's nice about now is they don't have to rely on him breaking the big one becasue their passing has been more efficient.
    Therefore the 2 or 3, 20+ yard gains per game are what is needed.
    I believe he is learning and doing much better against stacked boxes than he did last year or even earlier in the season.
    I have a feeling he will crack off a few long ones against the packers. Now that we have the passing game working they won't be able to crowd the LOS or we will kill them with Berrian and Rice. That will create more free space for Peterson to exploit. At least that is what I am praying for.
    you mean that same rice that has less than 100 yards on the season?

    just kidding, i just like to stir the pot.
    Hey, I am just trying on my new and improved purple shades. Cut me some slack

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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
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    [quote author=StillPurple link=topic=48751.msg860244#msg860244 date=1225586175]
    It is obvious to me that Peterson has not been quite as successful and devastating as people thought he would be. This began last year in the 49ers game, when the Niners defense stacked the box and Tarvaris could not throw us out of it. Every team after that has stacked the box against us. And it mostly has worked to keep AD from going nuts on them. The Vikings also have been very, very predictable in their playcalling, and have not gotten AD in space, for instance, by throwing the screen. This results in no lanes to run in. Unless the passing game can get us out of the stacked box, this will continue.
    Not often I agree with you StillPurple, but in this case, I very much do.

    AP's production is down from last year..
    but he's still AP.
    Just opposing defenses key on him.
    Their playcalling isn't necessarily taking advantage of this fact, either.
    Look what Ronnie Brown has done for the 'Fins.
    I'm not sure how you can say his production is down.
    He may not have 5.6 YPC but he has 102.9 YPG vs. 95.8 last year.
    I would say that's an increase in production.
    What's nice about now is they don't have to rely on him breaking the big one becasue their passing has been more efficient.
    Therefore the 2 or 3, 20+ yard gains per game are what is needed.
    I believe he is learning and doing much better against stacked boxes than he did last year or even earlier in the season.
    I have a feeling he will crack off a few long ones against the packers. Now that we have the passing game working they won't be able to crowd the LOS or we will kill them with Berrian and Rice. That will create more free space for Peterson to exploit. At least that is what I am praying for.
    you mean that same rice that has less than 100 yards on the season?

    just kidding, i just like to stir the pot.
    Hey, I am just trying on my new and improved purple shades. Cut me some slack
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    nah I think Rice can be a threat when healthy.
    He was good for us last year, but unfortunately hasn't seen the field much this year.

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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    "Formo" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    It is obvious to me that Peterson has not been quite as successful and devastating as people thought he would be. This began last year in the 49ers game, when the Niners defense stacked the box and Tarvaris could not throw us out of it. Every team after that has stacked the box against us. And it mostly has worked to keep AD from going nuts on them. The Vikings also have been very, very predictable in their playcalling, and have not gotten AD in space, for instance, by throwing the screen. This results in no lanes to run in. Unless the passing game can get us out of the stacked box, this will continue.
    Not often I agree with you StillPurple, but in this case, I very much do.

    AP's production is down from last year..
    but he's still AP.
    Just opposing defenses key on him.
    Their playcalling isn't necessarily taking advantage of this fact, either.
    Look what Ronnie Brown has done for the 'Fins.
    It is not down that much from last year!

    2007 after 8 games: 1036 yards and 8 TDs
    2008 after 8 games: 823 yards and 6 TDs

    A more interesting stat is his receiving numbers.

    2007 after 8 games: 206 yards and 1 TD
    2008 after 8 games: 65 yards and 0 TDs

    I have said this many times. Why are we not using him in the passing game and getting him in space!

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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    Peterson is just fine.
    He'll always be just fine, he's just too talented and hard working to fail.

    CT needs a lot more love than he gets.
    He runs hard as hell, can pass block, can catch and does everything you could want from a running back.
    He doesn't have the same "OH MY GOD" factor AD does when he touches the ball, but it's usually a satisfying feeling for me to see him run.
    I know he'll get his.

    There's nothing wrong with our rushing attack.
    Nothing major, anyway.
    It's working just fine.

    The passing attack, should it continue to burn people deep, is going to be the deciding factor on this season.
    If Gus and BB keep hooking up deep, the first thing that will change is the coverage.
    If Gus makes them pay by looking them off to BB and hitting VS or Rice, then you're going to see guys backing out of the box to respect the pass.
    That's when AD will strafe them.


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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Formo" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    It is obvious to me that Peterson has not been quite as successful and devastating as people thought he would be. This began last year in the 49ers game, when the Niners defense stacked the box and Tarvaris could not throw us out of it. Every team after that has stacked the box against us. And it mostly has worked to keep AD from going nuts on them. The Vikings also have been very, very predictable in their playcalling, and have not gotten AD in space, for instance, by throwing the screen. This results in no lanes to run in. Unless the passing game can get us out of the stacked box, this will continue.
    Not often I agree with you StillPurple, but in this case, I very much do.

    AP's production is down from last year..
    but he's still AP.
    Just opposing defenses key on him.
    Their playcalling isn't necessarily taking advantage of this fact, either.
    Look what Ronnie Brown has done for the 'Fins.
    It is not down that much from last year!

    2007 after 8 games: 1036 yards and 8 TDs
    2008 after 8 games: 823 yards and 6 TDs

    A more interesting stat is his receiving numbers.

    2007 after 8 games: 206 yards and 1 TD
    2008 after 8 games: 65 yards and 0 TDs

    I have said this many times. Why are we not using him in the passing game and getting him in space!


    Although I agree we don't use him in the passing game enough I think using his last year stats and this years aren't a very good idea

    The first game of the year didn't he have like a 60 or 80 yard reception?

    Never the less his yardage and TDs are down though

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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    "marstc09" wrote:
    It is not down that much from last year!

    2007 after 8 games: 1036 yards and 8 TDs
    2008 after 8 games: 823 yards and 6 TDs

    A more interesting stat is his receiving numbers.

    2007 after 8 games: 206 yards and 1 TD
    2008 after 8 games: 65 yards and 0 TDs

    I have said this many times. Why are we not using him in the passing game and getting him in space!
    Yes yes... lets look at stats... do you know how many receptions AD had all of last year?
    19... so far half way through this year he has 12 which puts him on pace to exceed last year's total by 25%.
    The Vikings ARE throwing to him more... as I indicated earlier, he's simply not making the plays once he gets the ball.
    The true measure of a man is what he'd do knowing he'd never be found out.

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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    "BleedinPandG" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    It is not down that much from last year!

    2007 after 8 games: 1036 yards and 8 TDs
    2008 after 8 games: 823 yards and 6 TDs

    A more interesting stat is his receiving numbers.

    2007 after 8 games: 206 yards and 1 TD
    2008 after 8 games: 65 yards and 0 TDs

    I have said this many times. Why are we not using him in the passing game and getting him in space!
    Yes yes... lets look at stats... do you know how many receptions AD had all of last year?
    19... so far half way through this year he has 12 which puts him on pace to exceed last year's total by 25%.
    The Vikings ARE throwing to him more... as I indicated earlier, he's simply not making the plays once he gets the ball.

    Yup they key on him

    And that's another reason why Chester is in more on passing plays

    He can catch better and make a play easier then Adrian

    Im so glad we have Chester

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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

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    Peterson is just fine.
    He'll always be just fine, he's just too talented and hard working to fail.

    CT needs a lot more love than he gets.
    He runs hard as hell, can pass block, can catch and does everything you could want from a running back.
    He doesn't have the same "OH MY GOD" factor AD does when he touches the ball, but it's usually a satisfying feeling for me to see him run.
    I know he'll get his.

    There's nothing wrong with our rushing attack.
    Nothing major, anyway.
    It's working just fine.

    The passing attack, should it continue to burn people deep, is going to be the deciding factor on this season.
    If Gus and BB keep hooking up deep, the first thing that will change is the coverage.
    If Gus makes them pay by looking them off to BB and hitting VS or Rice, then you're going to see guys backing out of the box to respect the pass.
    That's when AD will strafe them.

    Great post.

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    Re: Peterson preaches patience - Trying times for Peterson

    AD has no patience. He doesn't follow his blocking if there is no hole there.And he doesn't wait around for one to open up.
    He looks for the hole he's supposed to run to as soon as he gets the ball. If it's not there he goes somewhere else.
    And it works.
    Would he be better if he were more patient?
    Perhaps, but It didn't appear so last week.
    I wouldn't mess with his running style.
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    I agree Jargo

    Just let the man go

    He is a different kinda back.. The NFL hasn't seen one quite like him

    Just let him do his thing.. He makes it work

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