Thread: Peterson eager to see Ponder in action

Originally Posted by "seaniemck7" #1099783

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1099776

Originally Posted by "seaniemck7" #1099759

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1099753

Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1099750

Originally Posted by "ejmat" #1099749

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1099712

Regardless, we're not the ones doing the scouting, the team is. They should be able to figure out how Cassell looked in NE, and if his skills might be able to be translated into a good NFL QB on an average team.

I maybe wrong here but was Cassell ever "available"? I don't remeber for sure but I thought he was udner contract wiht the patriots and they traded him and Vrabek for a 2nd round pick????

I am of the few that believer there weren't a lot of choices in QB. The two I would have sought after were Schaub and Carr.

- Carr was available
- Schaub the asking price was too much for an unproven guy.
-Brees would have been too difficult as that is the same time Pep was still with the Vikings and demanding a trade. In fact after Brees snubbed Miami, the trade to Miami was made.
-Warner - I thought was done.

Other QBs were all backup calibur QBs no better than what we did bring in. One other QB that Childress drafted was Thigpen. Yes, the Chiller did address the QB position. Maybe not to anyone's liking but it certainly was addressed. Whether or not talent was available for a decent price is another story.

Good post my friend.

Cassell kindof falls into two catagories....(Brees/Schaub). Brees in that I'm not sure we really had a chance at him (like you said) and Schaub in that most of us wouldn't have given what was given.

What?

Pats traded Vrabel and Cassel to the Chiefs for only a second rounder. I'd have taken that deal in a heartbeat.

It wasn't just the trade. Cassel was franchised and held a $14M(or there abouts)guaranteed salary. No one but the Chiefs thought he was worth that kind of jank.

No, it was a trade.

If the Chiefs were to take him via franchise tag, they would have to give up at least a first and a third, (or is it two firsts?) and the dollar amount.

They traded for Cassel, and re-worked the contract.

Correct. I know it was a trade. However, the franchise tag help set the table for his compensation which wound up being a 6 year, $63M dollar deal:

7/14/2009: Signed a six-year, $63 million contract. The deal contains $28 million guaranteed, including a $10 million roster bonus in the first year. 2011: $4.75 million (+ $7.5 million option bonus), 2012: $5.25 million, 2013: $7.5 million, 2014: $9 million, 2015: Free Agent.

I wouldn't exactly take that contract "in a heart beat". Cassel was coming off a year in a system that was the most prolific offense in NFL history one year prior. He had not started a game since high school prior to that.

My point was that the 2nd rounder a Vrabel is fine. And while he might prove that he deserves that contract eventually, not many people believed he was worth that kind of $ at the time.

Besides the draft pick and money the team would have had to give up Brett Favre. No way you sign Cassel to that deal and don't start him. 09 would have been a much different year with Cassel at the helm.

Originally Posted by "jmcdon00" #1099785

Besides the draft pick and money the team would have had to give up Brett Favre. No way you sign Cassel to that deal and don't start him. 09 would have been a much different year with Cassel at the helm.

That right there is an excellent point that gets us back to the whole discussion point of "Realistic" options. Even the few names that some of the posters on here throw out, very few of those can be even considered "Realistic" options.

Hell, I could throw Peytons name out there and said we could have traded for him. Its a possibility, but not very "Realistic".

Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1100006

Originally Posted by "jmcdon00" #1099785

Besides the draft pick and money the team would have had to give up Brett Favre. No way you sign Cassel to that deal and don't start him. 09 would have been a much different year with Cassel at the helm.

That right there is an excellent point that gets us back to the whole discussion point of "Realistic" options. Even the few names that some of the posters on here throw out, very few of those can be even considered "Realistic" options.

Hell, I could throw Peytons name out there and said we could have traded for him. Its a possibility, but not very "Realistic".

You're right. It's unrealistic to think that our staff would target a talented QB.

Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1100011

You're right. It's unrealistic to think that our staff would target a talented QB.

.....sigh......