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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    I'm not going to try and convince you, its not my job I just dont see how brad gives us a better chance to win when he is playing like he has this season..
    4-3, alot better than the 2-5 & 1-7 of teams that are starting rookies right now.
    Thats how.
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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    "Gift" wrote:
    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    I'm not going to try and convince you, its not my job I just dont see how brad gives us a better chance to win when he is playing like he has this season..
    4-3, alot better than the 2-5 & 1-7 of teams that are starting rookies right now.
    Thats how.
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    And I bet if those teams started Brad they would also be 2-5 & 1-7 also





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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    "V4L" wrote:
    "Gift" wrote:
    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    I'm not going to try and convince you, its not my job I just dont see how brad gives us a better chance to win when he is playing like he has this season..
    4-3, alot better than the 2-5 & 1-7 of teams that are starting rookies right now.
    Thats how.
    .


    And I bet if those teams started Brad they would also be 2-5 & 1-7 also





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    No kidding.
    I can't imagine Brad playing for the Titans or Cardinals... he'd be injured within 2 weeks with a QB rating of like 20.
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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    Q:Where is JT O'Sullivan when you need him?


    A:On the Patriots practice squad.
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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    "Gift" wrote:
    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    I'm not going to try and convince you, its not my job I just dont see how brad gives us a better chance to win when he is playing like he has this season..
    4-3, alot better than the 2-5 & 1-7 of teams that are starting rookies right now.
    Thats how.
    if you put a good rookie qb on a team with talent and a good line they going to play alot better than one on those horrible teams thats a fact

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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling!!




    Geessss....
    the reason that the youngsters are not starting is that they are not ready to start!
    They WILL have their day....
    but probably not this year.
    Brad will do fine....
    He wasnt a gun slinger a couple years ago when he won a Superbowl in TB....
    he is the same ol' Brad.


    Let the Defense do its thing...keep the game close...make the right decisions in the end to win games.

    Dont burn the jerseys yet.....
    If he flames out in November, than I will come running with a match and gasoline.....
    BUT, when the Vikes are 8-3 after Thanksgiving...
    Just look at tonights game as a bad game and a good lesson!
    I'd much rather see the Packers miss the playoffs because of their talent then because of their injuries.

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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    "Gift" wrote:
    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    I'm not going to try and convince you, its not my job I just dont see how brad gives us a better chance to win when he is playing like he has this season..
    4-3, alot better than the 2-5 & 1-7 of teams that are starting rookies right now.
    Thats how.
    if you put a good rookie qb on a team with talent and a good line they going to play alot better than one on those horrible teams thats a fact
    AZ has tons of talent, still 1-7.
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    The Sky is falling, The Sky is falling!!




    Geessss....
    the reason that the youngsters are not starting is that they are not ready to start!
    They WILL have their day....
    but probably not this year.
    Brad will do fine....
    He wasnt a gun slinger a couple years ago when he won a Superbowl in TB....
    he is the same ol' Brad.


    Let the Defense do its thing...keep the game close...make the right decisions in the end to win games.

    Dont burn the jerseys yet.....
    If he flames out in November, than I will come running with a match and gasoline.....
    BUT, when the Vikes are 8-3 after Thanksgiving...
    Just look at tonights game as a bad game and a good lesson!
    Well said VFM2000, well said.
    Even babies know the difference.

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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    I'm not going to try and convince you, its not my job I just dont see how brad gives us a better chance to win when he is playing like he has this season..
    First of all, the WORST possible thing we could do is start Tarvaris now...and I'll tell you why.

    1:
    Our O-Line has yet to prove they can dominate anyone.
    McKinnie and Johnson were beaten so badly tonight, they will have to be checked into a shelter for abused linemen.
    Do you want the Rookie to spend his first few games running for his life?

    2:
    Our Receivers aren't that good.
    If they were, we'd take more shots downfield...we don't.
    That's for 1 of 2 reasons.
    Either A) Brad is inept and can't see them, or B) They aren't getting open.
    Our longest pass tonight was Mewelde Moore's screen (55 yards)...the next longest was 22, then 20, then 15, then 13.
    How many of those were YAC?


    3:
    Our playcalling sucks.
    Brad Childress is DETERMINED to do it HIS way...and that will not work.
    We haven't had an Offense all season (Except versus Seattle)...will we suddenly develope one if Tarvaris starts?
    Nope.
    Instead, we'll shoestring the poor kid into a hyper-conservative system that doesn't ALLOW him to be effective.
    We need a REAL OC, and Childress needs to quit calling plays.

    So, if you start Jackson now, you're doing 3 things.

    1:
    Declaring for all to see that we have given up hope of having a successful season.

    2:
    Subjecting him - before he's ready - to a confidence-breaking situation that could ruin him for his career (Anyone remember Cade McNown?).

    3:
    Creating more controversy in the locker room than there will be already.

    Tarvaris isn't ready...it's that simple...and neither are we.

    It would be completely different if we had the tools around him to help him BE successful, but until the other components of our Offense remember that they have to play EVERY week, that won't happen.

    Right now, I'm sick to my stomach with Brad Johnson's performance this season.
    I look at the rest of our schedule and see teams we should beat, but I fear our COMPLETE lack of Offense could lead to us being beaten instead (Buffalo beat us, Detroit had us beat).
    Brad Johnson is NOT the problem...neither is he the solution.
    But ruining Jackson doesn't help our situation any.

    Caine

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    Re: This is the Perfect time to Start T jack

    "Caine" wrote:
    "Flaminglover" wrote:
    I'm not going to try and convince you, its not my job I just dont see how brad gives us a better chance to win when he is playing like he has this season..
    First of all, the WORST possible thing we could do is start Tarvaris now...and I'll tell you why.

    1:
    Our O-Line has yet to prove they can dominate anyone.
    McKinnie and Johnson were beaten so badly tonight, they will have to be checked into a shelter for abused linemen.
    Do you want the Rookie to spend his first few games running for his life?

    2:
    Our Receivers aren't that good.
    If they were, we'd take more shots downfield...we don't.
    That's for 1 of 2 reasons.
    Either A) Brad is inept and can't see them, or B) They aren't getting open.
    Our longest pass tonight was Mewelde Moore's screen (55 yards)...the next longest was 22, then 20, then 15, then 13.
    How many of those were YAC?


    3:
    Our playcalling sucks.
    Brad Childress is DETERMINED to do it HIS way...and that will not work.
    We haven't had an Offense all season (Except versus Seattle)...will we suddenly develope one if Tarvaris starts?
    Nope.
    Instead, we'll shoestring the poor kid into a hyper-conservative system that doesn't ALLOW him to be effective.
    We need a REAL OC, and Childress needs to quit calling plays.

    So, if you start Jackson now, you're doing 3 things.

    1:
    Declaring for all to see that we have given up hope of having a successful season.

    2:
    Subjecting him - before he's ready - to a confidence-breaking situation that could ruin him for his career (Anyone remember Cade McNown?).

    3:
    Creating more controversy in the locker room than there will be already.

    Tarvaris isn't ready...it's that simple...and neither are we.

    It would be completely different if we had the tools around him to help him BE successful, but until the other components of our Offense remember that they have to play EVERY week, that won't happen.

    Right now, I'm sick to my stomach with Brad Johnson's performance this season.
    I look at the rest of our schedule and see teams we should beat, but I fear our COMPLETE lack of Offense could lead to us being beaten instead (Buffalo beat us, Detroit had us beat).
    Brad Johnson is NOT the problem...neither is he the solution.
    But ruining Jackson doesn't help our situation any.

    Caine
    Not to sound like a broken record, but well said Caine...well said.
    Even babies know the difference.

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