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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    Then Percy went a little further and suggested that, as a lot of people have always suspected, Brett was the one really calling the shots in the offense.
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    In other words, without Brett, the Vikings offense would’ve been boring and vanilla, and Percy would not have gotten the chance to shine.
    With Brett dictating things, Chillyball took a backseat, and the offense became dynamic and exciting.
    I will give him the little tidbit about the Noodle knowing more about the scheme than our coaches, one would almost have to think that especially after 20 years running this offense but the rest of the stuff, ala the HC taking a back seat to a QB, is really out there.

    Again, gonna be fun to see who actually believes this jibberish.
    ah, so a quote from a player that proves your point is a reputable source, but if it goes against what you preach its jibberish?

    Backseat to Favre might be a bit of a stretch (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote), but its absolutely believable that Favre ran the offense, despite what you'd have us think.
    Running the offense and audibling from the run play to the pass play the O-cord sent in isn't running the offense.

    I have never once said he didn't have the lattitude to do this. :P

    What I have said is that there is no way the Noodle spends time going over the other teams defensive weaknesses, then sits down and lays out the gameplan, briefs it to the HC and then orchestrates that gameplan during the game.
    and nobody is telling you this either.

    There's a difference between running the offense and calling the offense.

    If there's a QB who calls the offense, its Peyton Manning.

    Brett Favre runs it though, no question.

    Then mix in the whole "Chilly took a back seat" comment. Anyone who knows anything knows that if anyone took a back seat it would be the O-coord (cat who actually calls the plays from the gameplan that he developed).

    (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote)
    Who ever said that is probably a bit closer to reality that the author.....

    Again, gonna be fun to see who believes this crap.
    again, these are the direct quotes from Harvin:

    I just went into [the season] trying to contribute to the team first of all in the special-teams area but Brett got there and kind of took me into the game a little faster than I probably would have learned it under other quarterbacks,”
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    the rest is just interpretation.
    Good point on Peyton, but all in all, he still doesn't do the legwork on the gameplan vs the opposing teams weakness.

    There is a whole coaching staff that puts that stuff together.

    Quick question, in the direct quotes, do you know what the
    [the season]
    means?
    I'd imagine he just said something like "I just went into this trying..." or some other generic term, and it was altered so there would be minimal confusion as to what he meant.
    They say Peyton watches more tape than anybody, I'm willing to be he's at least active in gameplanning. He probably sits with the coaches and goes over tape and points out things he notices. He seems like one of the most pro-active guys in the league, I doubt those countless accounts of how much he watches tape and works are all lies. I don't know the extent on what he does, but I'd be willing to bet that he has some part in gameplanning.

    That, and he has a choice of plays to run on any given play, should also make that fairly clear.

    I've said before, Tom Moore has one of the easiest jobs in the game.
    I'd love to see just how much Peyton's involved in film study etc.

    It's close to impossible to build a gameplan etc. while being the QB of a succesful team. Tom has to filter some stuff out for him.

    In the end, I think that it's more of a great minds think alike thing with Manning and Moore. They seem to work together so well.
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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Then Percy went a little further and suggested that, as a lot of people have always suspected, Brett was the one really calling the shots in the offense.
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    In other words, without Brett, the Vikings offense would’ve been boring and vanilla, and Percy would not have gotten the chance to shine.
    With Brett dictating things, Chillyball took a backseat, and the offense became dynamic and exciting.
    I will give him the little tidbit about the Noodle knowing more about the scheme than our coaches, one would almost have to think that especially after 20 years running this offense but the rest of the stuff, ala the HC taking a back seat to a QB, is really out there.

    Again, gonna be fun to see who actually believes this jibberish.
    Believe what? Jibberish coming from a yutz with a keyboard or an actual NFL player? Pretty easy decision. Once again Marrdro, you lose.

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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    marstc09 wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Then Percy went a little further and suggested that, as a lot of people have always suspected, Brett was the one really calling the shots in the offense.
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    In other words, without Brett, the Vikings offense would’ve been boring and vanilla, and Percy would not have gotten the chance to shine.
    With Brett dictating things, Chillyball took a backseat, and the offense became dynamic and exciting.
    I will give him the little tidbit about the Noodle knowing more about the scheme than our coaches, one would almost have to think that especially after 20 years running this offense but the rest of the stuff, ala the HC taking a back seat to a QB, is really out there.

    Again, gonna be fun to see who actually believes this jibberish.
    Believe what? Jibberish coming from a yutz with a keyboard or an actual NFL player? Pretty easy decision. Once again Marrdro, you lose.
    I think you know when I'm logging off and heading home...... :P

    On a side note, so you believe the yutz writing the article didn't take liberties? WOW. See Mr. A's post. He understood how the author spun the quote.
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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Then Percy went a little further and suggested that, as a lot of people have always suspected, Brett was the one really calling the shots in the offense.
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    In other words, without Brett, the Vikings offense would’ve been boring and vanilla, and Percy would not have gotten the chance to shine.
    With Brett dictating things, Chillyball took a backseat, and the offense became dynamic and exciting.
    I will give him the little tidbit about the Noodle knowing more about the scheme than our coaches, one would almost have to think that especially after 20 years running this offense but the rest of the stuff, ala the HC taking a back seat to a QB, is really out there.

    Again, gonna be fun to see who actually believes this jibberish.
    ah, so a quote from a player that proves your point is a reputable source, but if it goes against what you preach its jibberish?

    Backseat to Favre might be a bit of a stretch (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote), but its absolutely believable that Favre ran the offense, despite what you'd have us think.
    Running the offense and audibling from the run play to the pass play the O-cord sent in isn't running the offense.

    I have never once said he didn't have the lattitude to do this. :P

    What I have said is that there is no way the Noodle spends time going over the other teams defensive weaknesses, then sits down and lays out the gameplan, briefs it to the HC and then orchestrates that gameplan during the game.

    Audible vs Gameplanning. Two entirely different concepts.

    Then mix in the whole "Chilly took a back seat" comment. Anyone who knows anything knows that if anyone took a back seat it would be the O-coord (cat who actually calls the plays from the gameplan that he developed).

    (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote)
    Who ever said that is probably a bit closer to reality that the author.....

    Again, gonna be fun to see who believes this crap.
    How the hell do you know if Lord Favre helps in the gameplanning or not?

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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

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    He said "SOME of our coaches."

    There are quality control guys and assistant coaches on the offense that are younger than Brett.

    He's been running the offense for 17 years. There's no doubt he knows what works and what doesn't, he's seen it all.

    I don't think there's any controversy in Harvin's statement, it's factual. He knows the offense better than some of our guys, no doubt. Better than Childress? No. Better than Bevell? Maybe. The rest of the guys going down the food chain, probably.
    The Chicago game is proof positive he knows it better than Childress. Even Favre was quoted to saying he basically took over the 2nd half.

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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    Marrdro wrote:
    marstc09 wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Then Percy went a little further and suggested that, as a lot of people have always suspected, Brett was the one really calling the shots in the offense.
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    In other words, without Brett, the Vikings offense would’ve been boring and vanilla, and Percy would not have gotten the chance to shine.
    With Brett dictating things, Chillyball took a backseat, and the offense became dynamic and exciting.
    I will give him the little tidbit about the Noodle knowing more about the scheme than our coaches, one would almost have to think that especially after 20 years running this offense but the rest of the stuff, ala the HC taking a back seat to a QB, is really out there.

    Again, gonna be fun to see who actually believes this jibberish.
    Believe what? Jibberish coming from a yutz with a keyboard or an actual NFL player? Pretty easy decision. Once again Marrdro, you lose.
    I think you know when I'm logging off and heading home...... :P

    On a side note, so you believe the yutz writing the article didn't take liberties? WOW. See Mr. A's post. He understood how the author spun the quote.
    Too easy to rebuttal that. See my response to that. WOW! It does not matter how the author spun it. There was proof from last year.

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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Then Percy went a little further and suggested that, as a lot of people have always suspected, Brett was the one really calling the shots in the offense.
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    In other words, without Brett, the Vikings offense would’ve been boring and vanilla, and Percy would not have gotten the chance to shine.
    With Brett dictating things, Chillyball took a backseat, and the offense became dynamic and exciting.
    I will give him the little tidbit about the Noodle knowing more about the scheme than our coaches, one would almost have to think that especially after 20 years running this offense but the rest of the stuff, ala the HC taking a back seat to a QB, is really out there.

    Again, gonna be fun to see who actually believes this jibberish.
    ah, so a quote from a player that proves your point is a reputable source, but if it goes against what you preach its jibberish?

    Backseat to Favre might be a bit of a stretch (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote), but its absolutely believable that Favre ran the offense, despite what you'd have us think.
    Running the offense and audibling from the run play to the pass play the O-cord sent in isn't running the offense.

    I have never once said he didn't have the lattitude to do this. :P

    What I have said is that there is no way the Noodle spends time going over the other teams defensive weaknesses, then sits down and lays out the gameplan, briefs it to the HC and then orchestrates that gameplan during the game.
    and nobody is telling you this either.

    There's a difference between running the offense and calling the offense.

    If there's a QB who calls the offense, its Peyton Manning.

    Brett Favre runs it though, no question.

    Then mix in the whole "Chilly took a back seat" comment. Anyone who knows anything knows that if anyone took a back seat it would be the O-coord (cat who actually calls the plays from the gameplan that he developed).

    (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote)
    Who ever said that is probably a bit closer to reality that the author.....

    Again, gonna be fun to see who believes this crap.
    again, these are the direct quotes from Harvin:

    I just went into [the season] trying to contribute to the team first of all in the special-teams area but Brett got there and kind of took me into the game a little faster than I probably would have learned it under other quarterbacks,”
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    the rest is just interpretation.
    Good point on Peyton, but all in all, he still doesn't do the legwork on the gameplan vs the opposing teams weakness.

    There is a whole coaching staff that puts that stuff together.

    Quick question, in the direct quotes, do you know what the
    [the season]
    means?
    I'd imagine he just said something like "I just went into this trying..." or some other generic term, and it was altered so there would be minimal confusion as to what he meant.
    They say Peyton watches more tape than anybody, I'm willing to be he's at least active in gameplanning. He probably sits with the coaches and goes over tape and points out things he notices. He seems like one of the most pro-active guys in the league, I doubt those countless accounts of how much he watches tape and works are all lies. I don't know the extent on what he does, but I'd be willing to bet that he has some part in gameplanning.

    That, and he has a choice of plays to run on any given play, should also make that fairly clear.

    I've said before, Tom Moore has one of the easiest jobs in the game.
    Someone gets it. +1

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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    Marrdro wrote:
    Mr Anderson wrote:
    He said "SOME of our coaches."

    There are quality control guys and assistant coaches on the offense that are younger than Brett.

    He's been running the offense for 17 years. There's no doubt he knows what works and what doesn't, he's seen it all.

    I don't think there's any controversy in Harvin's statement, it's factual. He knows the offense better than some of our guys, no doubt. Better than Childress? No. Better than Bevell? Maybe. The rest of the guys going down the food chain, probably.
    Someone who gets it.

    As always, a excellent post my friend.
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    Re: Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Marrdro wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Then Percy went a little further and suggested that, as a lot of people have always suspected, Brett was the one really calling the shots in the offense.
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    In other words, without Brett, the Vikings offense would’ve been boring and vanilla, and Percy would not have gotten the chance to shine.
    With Brett dictating things, Chillyball took a backseat, and the offense became dynamic and exciting.
    I will give him the little tidbit about the Noodle knowing more about the scheme than our coaches, one would almost have to think that especially after 20 years running this offense but the rest of the stuff, ala the HC taking a back seat to a QB, is really out there.

    Again, gonna be fun to see who actually believes this jibberish.
    ah, so a quote from a player that proves your point is a reputable source, but if it goes against what you preach its jibberish?

    Backseat to Favre might be a bit of a stretch (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote), but its absolutely believable that Favre ran the offense, despite what you'd have us think.
    Running the offense and audibling from the run play to the pass play the O-cord sent in isn't running the offense.

    I have never once said he didn't have the lattitude to do this. :P

    What I have said is that there is no way the Noodle spends time going over the other teams defensive weaknesses, then sits down and lays out the gameplan, briefs it to the HC and then orchestrates that gameplan during the game.
    and nobody is telling you this either.

    There's a difference between running the offense and calling the offense.

    If there's a QB who calls the offense, its Peyton Manning.

    Brett Favre runs it though, no question.

    Then mix in the whole "Chilly took a back seat" comment. Anyone who knows anything knows that if anyone took a back seat it would be the O-coord (cat who actually calls the plays from the gameplan that he developed).

    (Seems to be the authors interpretation anyway, not Percy's quote)
    Who ever said that is probably a bit closer to reality that the author.....

    Again, gonna be fun to see who believes this crap.
    again, these are the direct quotes from Harvin:

    I just went into [the season] trying to contribute to the team first of all in the special-teams area but Brett got there and kind of took me into the game a little faster than I probably would have learned it under other quarterbacks,”
    “I knew my job would be a lot easier when Brett got here,” Percy said. “He knows the game better than some of our coaches there. I knew our offense would run a lot smoother with a lot more opportunities. He’s known as a gunslinger.”
    the rest is just interpretation.
    Good point on Peyton, but all in all, he still doesn't do the legwork on the gameplan vs the opposing teams weakness.

    There is a whole coaching staff that puts that stuff together.

    Quick question, in the direct quotes, do you know what the
    [the season]
    means?
    I'd imagine he just said something like "I just went into this trying..." or some other generic term, and it was altered so there would be minimal confusion as to what he meant.
    They say Peyton watches more tape than anybody, I'm willing to be he's at least active in gameplanning. He probably sits with the coaches and goes over tape and points out things he notices. He seems like one of the most pro-active guys in the league, I doubt those countless accounts of how much he watches tape and works are all lies. I don't know the extent on what he does, but I'd be willing to bet that he has some part in gameplanning.

    That, and he has a choice of plays to run on any given play, should also make that fairly clear.

    I've said before, Tom Moore has one of the easiest jobs in the game.
    I agree, Peyton is probably the most active in that regard, but he probably only gets involved when they review specific sets/trends that the rest of the staff has found, to make sure he knows what he is seeing.

    and it was altered so there would be minimal confusion as to what he meant.
    So what your saying is, it isn't a direct quote, but actually a quote the author took the liberty of editing so us dumb yutz's would understand the point the author was trying to make.

    In short, he thinks we are to dumb to get his point on our own or might even come up with an altogether idea which probably doesn't meet his agenda...... :huh:
    if you edit a quote, you've gotta put the [edits] in the brackets. similar to this

    In short, he thinks [the majority of PP.O members] are dumb to get his point on our own or might even come up with an altogether idea which probably doesn't meet his agenda...... :huh:
    the fact is, the edit made has nothing to do with the actual content, just changing a choice of words. You're really [reaching] for something that isn't there
    Marrdro reaching?! Naw that never happens. LOL!

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    Re:Percy Harvin on Brett Favre:

    Marrdro wrote:
    Hmmm....where have I heard THIS before?

    In a chat with the Palm Beach Post, Percy Harvin gave the credit for his speedy development as a wide receiver to the guy who threw him the ball in 2009, and may be throwing him the ball again in 2010.

    “I just went into [the season] trying to contribute to the team first of all in the special-teams area but Brett got there and kind of took me into the game a little faster than I probably would have learned it under other quarterbacks,” Harvin said.
    But Jackson would have done just as good, right Mar?

    :P

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