06-21-2011, 04:22 PM #21
Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight EndsOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1098963
Point in case, we rotate Peterson in and out. Take Peterson out, and teams play the pass a little more, even though we might run, Gerhart/Booker/CTaylor is/was not nearly the rushing threat that AP is.
06-21-2011, 04:27 PM #22
Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight EndsOriginally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1098973
a. Your saying AD makes us predictable.
b. I say a Hybrid TE makes teams predictable.
c. Being predictable is bad.
d. Teams will do everything to fix predictability.
Answer for this discussion is to find "Inline TE's" that can not only block but run a route, not add more Hybrids to the roster.
Again, a breed thats end is near, much the same as a FB that only comes in to block on running plays.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
06-21-2011, 04:34 PM #23
Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight EndsOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1098974
If we take out Shank and put in Kliensasser, odds are we're using him to block. If we take out AP to rest and put in Gerhart, we still very much might run, but we're just less of a threat to hurt them with a big play.
06-21-2011, 05:06 PM #24
Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight EndsOriginally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1098977
First you strayed to the 310lbr and I would let you, then you went down the Clark thing and I wouldn't let you, now your steering away from the predictability point by swinging to the "Big Play" spin.
Focus my friend. This thread is about Blocking efficiency. The ones that suck are hybrids. The ones that don't aren't.
One makes you predictable, one doesn't.
Teams are moving away from the ones that can't block and make you predictable. No matter how you try to spin it, I won't let you get to far away from that discussion point.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
06-21-2011, 05:18 PM #25
Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight EndsOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1098991
06-21-2011, 06:25 PM #26
Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight EndsOriginally Posted by "Marrdro" #1098956
Let's face it, there wasn't one "failure point" on our team last season. There wasn't one thing we could have replaced and had a dramatically different result.
Not Rice, or Berrian, or Harvin.
It was all of those elements failing at the same time that caused our problems.
And as they started to fall apart, each one dragged the others that much further down, until the whole thing snowballed. Each part got progressively worse as the season wore on.
Doesn't change the fact that each part did indeed suck.
Doesn't alter the fact that each piece has to take responsibility for the elements that it CAN address and do so.
But it also doesn't mean it was all Favre (as some have been trying to insist) as Jackson would have done no better (Let's not kid ourselves on that point anymore), and didn't.
It also wasn't ALL the O-Line. But consistent poor play from McKinnie over the years has made many of us very quick to single him out. Loadholt's level of play fell off - or so it seemed - and the comparisons to Mckinnie began to extend beyond the height thing.
So, yes, I agree that there were a lot of contributing factors that lead to a heightened impression of poor Line play...but I also believe that there WAS poor line play. And no matter who else screwed up, at no point did the line suck it up and play through it.
Just because no one else did either doesn't change the fact that they didn't.
And that's where I stand on that.
06-22-2011, 05:31 PM #27
Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight EndsOriginally Posted by "Caine" #1098996Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
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