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    Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/16/2010-pass-blocking-efficiency-tight-ends/


    As can be expected some high marks here with Jim Kleinsasser.
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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Good link.

    In the end I would still like to see them use him as a FB with Shank and Rudolph at TE and AP as the fullback. If we can't move a pile with those guys running behind Big Mac and Loadholt..........

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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Interesting read. Sauce comes in at #2 last year, #1 over the past three years.

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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Outside of Jim Kleinsasser, youíre unlikely to find one who can even resemble blocking like a tackle

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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    What a great read my friend. The stuff they are doing at PFF this year is amazing. As the author states, you should be reading it daily.

    Aside from the glowing reports Sauce gets, I thought this was an interesting little nugget.

    Then, as these articles have taught, there are some guys who didnít do so well. If you read some of the team pieces I did last week you would have noticed me not speaking very highly of a certain Bears tight end. Iíll preface this by saying it may be a little unfair to look at Brandon Manumaleuna compared to other tight ends, because he was kept in an awful lot one on one. Indeed, you can attribute nine of the pressures he gave up to him being left matched up with a nightmarish trio in DeMarcus Ware, Ray Edwards, and Cliff Avril. The fact he gave up more pressure than any other tight end comes largely down to misuse, with the Bears treating him as an extra tackle when he quite clearly isnít. Manumaleuna surrendered pressure on 12.37% of the pass plays he stayed in to block for.
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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Funny how we hack all over the OL for their inability to pass block, but when some actual data is provided, to counter that, we don't see a word out of the "Our OL sucks" crowd.

    Sad day on PPO my friends. .........snicker........

    Long story short, if you look at our pass blocking we have issues that are more glaring than our OL my friends.

    Pass Blocking Efficiency, Running Backs, Bottom 15, 2010
    Rank Name Team Pass Blocking Snaps Pressures PBE
    1 Ray Rice BLT 132 17 10.61
    2 Adrian L. Peterson MIN 76 9 9.21
    Pass Blocking Efficiency: Running Backs

    Thank the good lord for Ray Rice or AD would be at the bottom of the list.
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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1098912
    Funny how we hack all over the OL for their inability to pass block, but when some actual data is provided, to counter that, we don't see a word out of the "Our OL sucks" crowd.

    Sad day on PPO my friends. .........snicker........

    Long story short, if you look at our pass blocking we have issues that are more glaring than our OL my friends.

    Pass Blocking Efficiency, Running Backs, Bottom 15, 2010
    Rank Name Team Pass Blocking Snaps Pressures PBE
    1 Ray Rice BLT 132 17 10.61
    2 Adrian L. Peterson MIN 76 9 9.21
    Pass Blocking Efficiency: Running Backs

    Thank the good lord for Ray Rice or AD would be at the bottom of the list.
    Riiight...because Kleinsasser and Peterson were in to block on every down....

    Funny how whenever the word "Block" is used in a positive light, you immediately attribute it to the O-Line.

    Fact is, Kleinsasser is a fantastic blocking TE...no one disputes that.

    The other truth, however, is that our O-Line (LT, LG, C, RG, RT) sucked. And, yes, 16th place is another way of statistically saying "Sucked".

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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1098912
    Funny how we hack all over the OL for their inability to pass block, but when some actual data is provided, to counter that, we don't see a word out of the "Our OL sucks" crowd.

    Sad day on PPO my friends. .........snicker........

    Long story short, if you look at our pass blocking we have issues that are more glaring than our OL my friends.

    Pass Blocking Efficiency, Running Backs, Bottom 15, 2010
    Rank Name Team Pass Blocking Snaps Pressures PBE
    1 Ray Rice BLT 132 17 10.61
    2 Adrian L. Peterson MIN 76 9 9.21
    Pass Blocking Efficiency: Running Backs

    Thank the good lord for Ray Rice or AD would be at the bottom of the list.
    Ok.. Our OL Sucks

    good TE blocking != good OL blocking.

    I don't consider the TE part of our OL, he's a hybrid receiver in todays game.

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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Quote Originally Posted by "Caine" #1098921
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1098912
    Funny how we hack all over the OL for their inability to pass block, but when some actual data is provided, to counter that, we don't see a word out of the "Our OL sucks" crowd.

    Sad day on PPO my friends. .........snicker........

    Long story short, if you look at our pass blocking we have issues that are more glaring than our OL my friends.

    Pass Blocking Efficiency, Running Backs, Bottom 15, 2010
    Rank Name Team Pass Blocking Snaps Pressures PBE
    1 Ray Rice BLT 132 17 10.61
    2 Adrian L. Peterson MIN 76 9 9.21
    Pass Blocking Efficiency: Running Backs

    Thank the good lord for Ray Rice or AD would be at the bottom of the list.
    Riiight...because Kleinsasser and Peterson were in to block on every down....

    Funny how whenever the word "Block" is used in a positive light, you immediately attribute it to the O-Line.

    Fact is, Kleinsasser is a fantastic blocking TE...no one disputes that.

    The other truth, however, is that our O-Line (LT, LG, C, RG, RT) sucked. And, yes, 16th place is another way of statistically saying "Sucked".

    Caine
    I agree with you on Sauce. Were was Shanc? How about Dugan? Sauce isn't the only TE blocking on this staff.

    By the way, you keep throwing 16th out there. Seems to me they were 13th in a couple of areas. Regardless, if that sucks, I wonder what you call 32nd.

    By the way, what happened to the Caine who posted a few posts back, that I lauded by the way, who said it was a bigger issue than our OL?
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    Re: Pass Blocking Effciency: Tight Ends

    Quote Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1098938
    I don't consider the TE part of our OL, he's a hybrid receiver in todays game.
    WHAT?

    LOL, I bet some of the "In line" TE's would laugh you out of the building for a comment like that.

    Are there a some TE's out there that are nothing more than glorified WR's brought in to create mismatch problems with LB'rs? Yes, but if you look at teams like the Pats (and now the Vikes) they are going back to a more traditional "Inline" TE who can not only block, but get into a route as well.

    Long story short, your Hybrid TE's are going to become a thing of the past and I give it 2 more years.
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