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    Re: An outsiders point of view

    "gregair13" wrote:
    we kow the problems. we dont need an 0-4 fan to come and tell us.
    He came in peace.

    No need to smack him.

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    Re: An outsiders point of view

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    I truly still feel that Favre has a few good years left in him. I agree with the rest of the reasons tho. The biggest problem is going to be getting talent around favre. Green hasn't done much this year yet either. Maybe time for a change at RB?
    Do you want to start rebuilding now or in a few years?

    It is tough to let a legend go, but sometime it has to happen.

    Remember Montana, I wasn't even a Montana fan and it just didn't seem right.

    They had Young to immediately replace Montana. If your young guy could mature, it might happen sooner than later.

    Honestly, there isn't any other QBs out there that are available that can play better than Favre can at this time, so unless you are willing to let the youngster play while rebuilding, you keep Favre.

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    Re: An outsiders point of view

    Reggie Bush? are you serious? The guy is not that good. He has a great team. What about maroney? He has better numbers than Bush. That's a joke. Hahaha

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    Re: An outsiders point of view

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    Reggie Bush? are you serious? The guy is not that good. He has a great team. What about maroney? He has better numbers than Bush. That's a joke. Hahaha
    Shushshshshshsh!!!!!!

    You don't want Maroney playing for the packers do you????

    Keep that info on the Down Low!

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    Re: An outsiders point of view

    "gregair13" wrote:
    we kow the problems. we dont need an 0-4 fan to come and tell us.

    Hey there gregair, why don't you give the guy a break, he came here to talk football, so cut him some slack. Also what is with your favorite player, Daunte Culpepper *rolling my eyes* thing? You seem to be the Canadian that will give the rest of us canadians a bad name around here. Pick your battles bro and leave the dudes alone that are just talking ball! And if you are rolling your eyes when saying D-Pep is your favorite baller, it doesn't make you sound like Vikings fan, however I may have mis-understood your favorite player thing, if so sorry! But lay off the harmless dudes and arm yourself for the Packer Pooh Heads that are coming to the site soon!!

    Cheers!!

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    Re: An outsiders point of view

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    "PackerPride" wrote:
    Which brings me to the last thing I've noticed, the offensive line. They don't seem to be opening up many holes for the running game (no matter which back is in) and are doing even worse pass blocking (I think I counted 9 sacks on DC the last game). This could very well be the 2nd biggest problem, right behind Tice still being coach after his little meeting.
    The O-line isn't as big of a problem as many are saying. Culpepper isn't seeing the field and taking too long in the pocket, and we aren't working our short game as hard as we should. But, it all comes back to Culpepper. He HAS to step up and make plays. he got a raise this year...it's time to earn it.

    Caine
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    Re: An outsiders point of view

    I think you hit fairly on the head here.
    I think the Tice thing has definitely been blown out of proportion and I think the main problem with this team lies in defensive and offensive coordinator positions.
    Cottrell obviously has everyone confused as to what is going on. I was at the Falcons game and there were times where the run blitz was on and the DB's clearly did not know or were unaware of where they were supposed to be botching good play calls with confusion. I think that comes down to making sure the players understand the scheme.
    On offense, the line does not protect well and the WR dont get open, combined with C-Pep being indecive and not making correct reads, which leads to sacks, INT's and only short completions.
    Hopefully the bye and the addition of outside help will help correct alot of this in time for the trip to Chicago.

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    Re: An outsiders point of view

    When I was talking about Maroney, I was just pointing out the fact that everyone is obsessed with R. Bush. I'm just sick of hearing about him. If Maroney was USC, then everyone would be obsessed with him, it's all about the band wagon.

    Now I will Shush...

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    Re: An outsiders point of view

    "midgensa" wrote:
    I think you hit fairly on the head here.
    I think the Tice thing has definitely been blown out of proportion and I think the main problem with this team lies in defensive and offensive coordinator positions.
    Cottrell obviously has everyone confused as to what is going on. I was at the Falcons game and there were times where the run blitz was on and the DB's clearly did not know or were unaware of where they were supposed to be botching good play calls with confusion. I think that comes down to making sure the players understand the scheme.
    On offense, the line does not protect well and the WR dont get open, combined with C-Pep being indecive and not making correct reads, which leads to sacks, INT's and only short completions.
    Hopefully the bye and the addition of outside help will help correct alot of this in time for the trip to Chicago.


    First of all you say that the Tice stuff has been blown out of proportion and that the blame is on Loney and Cottrell and you are right, they are definitely to blame for their part. The part that doesn't make sense to ME is that Tice hired these two bozos, ultimately the HC has to be held responsible. If I hired someone to work for me and they don't do as they are asked or they aren't doing their job properly, I have to fix it, however if I do not fix it, I have to start worrying about my job! That is where we are, sorry folks but the HC in the NFL is gonna love winning and there hate looking for a job after loses!

    Cheers!

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