Thread: Our Starting QB is Injury Prone
02-28-2012, 05:55 PM #101
said it before ponder throws a couple of blistering balls and the next few lack power.....reminds me of pennington......take griffin......but again we have so many holes.....trading down and getting more picks might be prudent......?.but. RGIII. puts fannys in the seats.......and the best qb the vikes will ever have a shot at in the next 5 yrs + in the draft.None
02-28-2012, 07:52 PM #102
Still don't see a convincing reason not to take RGIII in the draft. QB is a cornerstone piece, and Ponder hasn't proven anything yet. Not saying he can't, or that he won't, but forcing 2 capable players to fight it out has no real downside...unless we're wrong about both...
02-28-2012, 10:34 PM #103
02-29-2012, 07:04 AM #104Asst. Coach
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You would pass on an elite LT to take RGIII?. If you do how do we protect him form getting killed any better than we failed to protect Ponder?Purple till i die
02-29-2012, 01:55 PM #105
Agreed on the premise that Ponder has some injury concerns. I think the kid has moxie in a big way. He got killed behind our crappy line in an offseason where he first thought he would be the guy and then got thrown in when McRibb turned out to be worse than expected. I think an offseason with the team as the guy, but still having to prove it will do wonders. I would love to take another QB and RG3 looks like a damn good one, but with the holes we have I would rather see is build from the lines and secondary first. No matter what we do it will need to be under the guise of competing to win our division, even RG3 alone with the line issues we have is not enough....
02-29-2012, 01:58 PM #106
On the other hand you can have elite QBs like Manning and they even make Charlie Johnson look like a capable LT.
02-29-2012, 02:09 PM #107
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Problem with trying to concentrate on the elite QB to the detriment of other positions on the team... when said superstar is out or gone then the team's season tends to go tits up - ala Colts last seasonTime spent annoying a Packer fan is never time wasted...
02-29-2012, 05:13 PM #108
I don't see what Tom Brady or Peyton Manning have to do with the argument at all.
If you have a chance at an ELITE QB and don't think you have one (which I think most here would agree that we don't think we have one) then you take him. And ELITE QB is more important to any team than ANY other position.
If RGIII is truly elite (which he could bust of course ... and so could Matt Kalil) then RG III and No Name Tackle is better than Average QB and Matt Kalil EVERY time.
03-01-2012, 02:28 AM #109
Saw alot of 4 man fronts providing pressure with 2 and 3 men blitzing, but never 6 men. Sounds like a new scheme that you should send to our new D - Coord.
Besides, In our scheme, the way to defeat the blitz is to get rid of the ball quickly to your hot read based on the sight adjustment made by the QB and the WR's. Our problem this year was we usually only had one WR on the field and that makes it pretty hard to make a sigth adjustment.
What we were don this year, was to put the responsibility of the RB/FB or one of the 2 or 3 TE's, not a OLmen to pick up the blitzer. They, not our OL, for the most part, were the reason, along with the inability to take advantage of the blitz via the hot read adjustment (see above) were the reason Ponder was on his ass alot my friend.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
03-01-2012, 02:33 AM #110
Either you have to trust your scouts and front office pukes to get it right and provide the staff the right guy, that matches the scheme, and most importantly, you have to rely on your coaching staff to get the kid(s) ready.
I think the FO pukes got it right with Ponder. I'm just not sure about the coaching staff right now.
Lets hope we can fix our WR corps, get AD and Toby back and get our OL back to 1 or 2 blocking schemes vice 4 so young Ponder has a group around him that he can work with.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.