Thread: Our D line Gettin Some love...
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08-15-2005, 05:13 AM #11
Re: Our D line Gettin Some love...
"canadian_vikes_fan" wrote:
What exactly has Johnson done to make him any better of a pick than Williamson? I'm glad we decided not to give up on Thomas and took the guy with the most potential to be great. How many of us really thought that Taylor would come in here and be a #2 WR and we already had added 2 perfectly decent vetern linebackers from trades that's why Claiborne was expendable and that's why we did not need Johnson."VikemanX84" wrote:
I agree completely. I was even hoping we'd take DJ with our seventh pick even. I just think that the Moss trade would've made a whole lot more sense if we picked someone on defense. Cuz basically, there is no way that Williamson will ever be as good as Moss (not that I think Williamson is a bust, just that Moss is the best receiver in the game, and I don't even think Troy was the best receiver in the draft). So is Napo really worth the difference between Moss and Troy??I like Troy Williamson and he was the WR I wanted if Edwards wasn't on the board.
I don't like the pick though. Travis Taylor is going to be our #2 guy and Marcus Robinson is a good #3 and it's hard to see him being any lower on the depth chart than that. That means that we spent the 7th overall pick on a guy who is going to see limited playing time and be burried on the depth chart. The #4 spot would have been a good spot for a WR picked in like teh third Round, which is where we should have picked a WR.
Meanwhile we left this monster of a linebacker in Derrick Johnson on the board. Now, I'm glad Thomas is doing well in Training camp, but he was doing well last year too and he completely sucked in the regular season. I would have felt a lot better if we would have traded the pick back a few spaces (Maybe to San Deigo who wanted Mike Williams) and picked up a couple extra picks and still gotten DJ, or Williamson for that matter.
I think we made 3 mistakes in this years draft
1. Drafting Williamson at #7 (Later, okay, but not that high)
2. Drafting Dustin Fox in the Third round (Our secondary is crowded enough without having to add another first day pick to it)
3. Trading our 5th round pick to draft Fason and ultimately passing up on Anttaj Hawthorne (I think fason will be a good back, but I wuld have rather taken him in the third round to insure we got him than watse two picks on him in the second day)
It's too late for all this now. I think Troy Williamson will be the talk of the league in 2 or 3 years and is a great long term addittion. I think the best way he can help us this year is to return punts.
But if we had picked DJ, then we would've gotten two defensive starters for Moss. In that case, I would have been all for the trade. But as it is, we are now putting ourselves at risk of getting blown out of the water with this trade.Minnesota Vikings : Simply the best
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08-15-2005, 05:23 AM #12
Re: Our D line Gettin Some love...
I feel bad for anyone who has to come in after Moss leaves and being compared to Edwards or Williams cause they were in the same draft. I will save my judgement on this one until the preseason is over.

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08-15-2005, 04:34 PM #13
Re: Our D line Gettin Some love...
"canadian_vikes_fan" wrote:
We didn't get nearly enough in this trade, I agree. Napo is a decent but not Pro-Bowl Linebacker. I think we really needed to get some kind of conditional pick next year. The real value in trading Randy Moss was the extra money I guess. But we gave up more than we got."VikemanX84" wrote:
I agree completely. I was even hoping we'd take DJ with our seventh pick even. I just think that the Moss trade would've made a whole lot more sense if we picked someone on defense. Cuz basically, there is no way that Williamson will ever be as good as Moss (not that I think Williamson is a bust, just that Moss is the best receiver in the game, and I don't even think Troy was the best receiver in the draft). So is Napo really worth the difference between Moss and Troy??I like Troy Williamson and he was the WR I wanted if Edwards wasn't on the board.
I don't like the pick though. Travis Taylor is going to be our #2 guy and Marcus Robinson is a good #3 and it's hard to see him being any lower on the depth chart than that. That means that we spent the 7th overall pick on a guy who is going to see limited playing time and be burried on the depth chart. The #4 spot would have been a good spot for a WR picked in like teh third Round, which is where we should have picked a WR.
Meanwhile we left this monster of a linebacker in Derrick Johnson on the board. Now, I'm glad Thomas is doing well in Training camp, but he was doing well last year too and he completely sucked in the regular season. I would have felt a lot better if we would have traded the pick back a few spaces (Maybe to San Deigo who wanted Mike Williams) and picked up a couple extra picks and still gotten DJ, or Williamson for that matter.
I think we made 3 mistakes in this years draft:
1. Drafting Williamson at #7 (Later, okay, but not that high)
2. Drafting Dustin Fox in the Third round (Our secondary is crowded enough without having to add another first day pick to it)
3. Trading our 5th round pick to draft Fason and ultimately passing up on Anttaj Hawthorne (I think fason will be a good back, but I wuld have rather taken him in the third round to insure we got him than watse two picks on him in the second day)
It's too late for all this now. I think Troy Williamson will be the talk of the league in 2 or 3 years and is a great long term addittion. I think the best way he can help us this year is to return punts.
But if we had picked DJ, then we would've gotten two defensive starters for Moss. In that case, I would have been all for the trade. But as it is, we are now putting ourselves at risk of getting blown out of the water with this trade.
When we got Travis Taylor I pretty much figured he was going to be our #2 guy. Misused in Baltimore he could be a star here in Minnesota. And it is just a lot of fun watching Nate Burleson play football, he is really going to break out this year. So really with Marcus Robinson still on our team we really didn't need to use better than a third round pick on a promising #4 WR.
We really shouldn't have stayed at #7. Pick Williamson, okay, but he wasn't worth #7. We should have either moved up for Edwards or moved back for any number of players including Shawn Merriman, Williamson, DJ, or even Thomas Davis.When it s all said and done, you ll have to admit we re number 1!
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