10-26-2012, 09:13 AM #41Asst. Coach
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10-26-2012, 09:16 AM #42
We need a big receiver. Freeman had four big passes in this game. One was a screen, another was basically a hail mary to a triple covered V. Jax on third down, and two were passes where he just tossed it up to Mike Williams on third down. When protection broke down he was just tossing it up and letting his receivers make a play. We don't have anyone to toss it up to. Ponder did this once to Harvin and Harvin let the defender take it from him.
10-26-2012, 09:40 AM #43
This is something i wish i had access to reviews of games for. watching live is hard to see the whole field. and without a real full access to the nfl coaches film it's mostly reading what others say, trying to piece together what i see. Ponder does seem to have a nak for the last minute drill.. and this could be something that helps him along. if he can tap into that and react instead of over think.. well.. that's for the coaches to work on, and ponder himself to understand.
"We tried to stick with it, but there was a point where we were beating our head against a wall," Seattle Coach Mora talking about running at the Williams Wall
10-26-2012, 11:23 AM #44
I think Mayock said it best, two young teams played, both have a long ways to go and both have a lot of young developing talent. They are both going to lay a lot of eggs in the process, but also don't be surprised if they come out and beat some teams that no one expects them to beat.
I would not be surprised at all if we go out and split the series between GB and Chicago. I don't think this is a playoff team, I think we have a long ways to go. Ponder has a long ways to go, and may never get there, but I haven't personally ruled him out yet. I don't think his play was near as bad as many have commented in this thread. He was worse IMO in the last couple games than he was last night. Remind me to comment in Singer's thread about how everyone keeps giving Ponder the benefit of the doubt and won't say a negative comment about him. I think if you took a poll today, the majority of PPO would say Ponder will never be the QB we need.
We flat out got whooped by a team that came in with more energy than we did, a lot of that energy we gave them with a number of miscues. Take an opponent for granted, they will make you pay. We did, they did. That Mike Williams' dude also made some incredible catches that were very well defended. Freeman was hot and cold, Doug Martin ran the ball very well (because we gave him too much space) and the defense made some big plays.
So should we call off the game in Seattle and call the season a bust, or we should go up there for shits and grins and just see what happens?
Sucks about Cook.
10-26-2012, 11:25 AM #45
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10-26-2012, 12:31 PM #47Asst. Coach
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What stood out to me most last night was everything went the Bucs way, and I mean EVERYTHING. It was just one of those games. I don't know if it was coaching, preparation, or our lack of energy, but all the big breaks went the Bucs way. My neck is sore from shaking my head so much last night. Like Randy Moss said above, Freeman would just throw a ball up and one of his receivers would come down with it, especially on 3rd n long. Whenever Ponder threw one up, it usually found the turf or the sidelines.
I think part of the reason why Freeman was having success is because our defenders don't know how to make a play on the ball. Our defenders seem to have that "let em catch it and try to knock it out with a big hit" mentality that doesn't work very often. Their 31st ranked pass defense was draped all over our receivers all night making plays. And again I noticed that our defenders never try to rip the ball out from a ball carrier, even when the ball carrier is wrapped up. Barber caused 2 fumbles ripping at the ball and it lead to 10 points for them. Even when we were down 3 scores our D was still indifferent about trying to create a turnover. Sometimes giving the offense a short field is enough to snap them out of their funk and get them into a groove.
I would say not only does our coaching staff not seem to trust Ponder, but they don't seem to trust the DB's either. It's like it's been ingrained into their heads to play it safe and to just not give up any big plays instead of allowing them to be aggressive.
10-26-2012, 01:56 PM #48
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Well thing I'm convinced of is that Simpson is the real deal in that he is crap as WR. Can't get decent separation or give a consistent downfield threat. I'm sure he's won more PI calls than he's made catches so far this season. We will need to be looking for a proper WR in the draft and probably in the first round. We can't keep relying on Harvin to cover for a missing WR as teams are getting wise to Percy and shutting him down more - even though he is an elite player
Ponder had a poor night again, now some of that is on him without a doubt as most people expected from his this season. He is getting happy feet at times which then impacts his performance - that is not helped by poor blocking for him and several blown protection calls. I would also put something onto the coaches both OC and HC for not getting him eased into the game and helping get his confidence up. Starting 0/5 in passing is not going to help any QB and especially a young QB who is clearly still learning to play in the NFL.
Hopefully this loss will light a fire under some arses and get them back on track before the next game - if not then said arses need to be kicked, waived or sacked.Time spent annoying a Packer fan is never time wasted...
10-26-2012, 02:21 PM #49Waterboy
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We are who they thought we were!
Are you kiddin me, this is the sucky TB bucco bruces.
17 pts....blown out by a team that has been living in the bottom 8 of the league all year long.
The defense can't tackle..
Have you guys looked at our schedule. We might beat Detroit and St. Louis.
Fire The GM!
Bench Simpson(fumbling, pass dropping fool).
6-10 record....7-9 at best...
Get ready to get blown out by Seattle. The hawks have a real defense, not a crap defense like TB.
We'll be lucky to get 10pts.
10-26-2012, 04:06 PM #50
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