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    Re: No blame for Daunte?

    "hic-agvike77" wrote:
    Imo his pocket presence is very poor, and for as big as he is he's awfuly easy to bring down(scared to get hit). He has no composure when the pocket is colapsing or is being blitzed heavily. He's Very undicisive will stay in the pocket to long then either throw into heavy coverage or get sacked and fumble beacuse he was looking downfield and didn't feel the pressure.
    Are you kidding, he is one of the toughest QB's to sack in the league. Just look at any game film and you will see him break the 1st tackle more often then not. Also he has the ability to not go down with just one defender hanging on him and still get off a good pass to an open TE or RB.
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    Re: No blame for Daunte?

    "TheViking" wrote:
    "hic-agvike77" wrote:
    Imo his pocket presence is very poor, and for as big as he is he's awfuly easy to bring down(scared to get hit). He has no composure when the pocket is colapsing or is being blitzed heavily. He's Very undicisive will stay in the pocket to long then either throw into heavy coverage or get sacked and fumble beacuse he was looking downfield and didn't feel the pressure.
    Are you kidding, he is one of the toughest QB's to sack in the league. Just look at any game film and you will see him break the 1st tackle more often then not. Also he has the ability to not go down with just one defender hanging on him and still get off a good pass to an open TE or RB.
    Well I don't really want to argue, I think all people see things diferently from each other. Yes I have seen him make plays like that.

    The problem is, is that there's 2 DC's....... if he gets an early td we see your DC, but if he dosent score early and we fall behind we get crappy DC.

    Anyways I just wish he could be more consistant(he actually was last year hence 39tds vs 11ints :grin: )

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    Re: THe culppeper tendency

    "bigdogbovy" wrote:
    I'm not a pep basher and I don't thnk he should be benched permanently, but what I have seen from pep is this.

    When ahead he is on fire he finds the guys he's awesome. When behind he's not so hot and makes mistakes.

    My concern is he starting this game feeling already behind?
    I was just comenting on this on another thread lol :lol:
    No blame for Daunte?

    I honestly think this problem started with Moss and CC getting on his case early in his career anybody else remember that shyt.

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    Re: No blame for Daunte?

    "TheViking" wrote:
    "hic-agvike77" wrote:
    Imo his pocket presence is very poor, and for as big as he is he's awfuly easy to bring down(scared to get hit). He has no composure when the pocket is colapsing or is being blitzed heavily. He's Very undicisive will stay in the pocket to long then either throw into heavy coverage or get sacked and fumble beacuse he was looking downfield and didn't feel the pressure.
    Are you kidding, he is one of the toughest QB's to sack in the league. Just look at any game film and you will see him break the 1st tackle more often then not. Also he has the ability to not go down with just one defender hanging on him and still get off a good pass to an open TE or RB.
    In theory you are right, but Daunte gets sacked a lot. I believe he is the third most sacked QB in the last three years ...

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    Re: THe culppeper tendency

    To me it looks like if Culpepper wouldnt have thrown that interception on there first drive against Tampa. We wouldnt be talking about him like this. The way I see it is he throw that pick and started to do more than he could and everything just snowballed on him.

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    Re: No blame for Daunte?

    "WilliamsonOfTroy" wrote:
    Daunte has part of the blame, but its not like this guy got bad over night...theres something behind the sceens that is causing this kinda play outta him
    I think he's always been bad. Now it's just showing because he doesn't have a great offensive coordinator, a great offensive line, a stable running back and the NFL best receiver ever all surrounding him. His true talent I'm afraid is showing now.
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    Re: No blame for Daunte?

    I just got done reading a short article by Pat Carucci on www.nfl.com, basically saying it is all Culpepper's fault. I can't say I totally disagree, but on the other hand, the QB ALWAYS gets the blame when things go wrong. When was the last time you heard someone say, "it is the receivers, because they don't run their routes properly, and don't block well downfield, and don't come back and help their QB when he is in trouble" ? Answer: almost never.

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    Re: No blame for Daunte?

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    I just got done reading a short article by Pat Carucci on www.nfl.com, basically saying it is all Culpepper's fault. I can't say I totally disagree, but on the other hand, the QB ALWAYS gets the blame when things go wrong. When was the last time you heard someone say, "it is the receivers, because they don't run their routes properly, and don't block well downfield, and don't come back and help their QB when he is in trouble" ? Answer: almost never.
    The leaders take the brunt of the blame in everything in life, not just sports. The QB happens to be the leader on the field and the coaches are the next tier up and the owner the next tier up. The blame has to bo somewhere and the most obvious starting point are the leaders. Many a bad leader has been taken out with this logic and many a good leader has been a scapegoat using this logic.

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