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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    "bono" wrote:
    My predicitons:
    This game should be interesting...You can't take your eye off a lion (esp. these guys)...
    It COULD be a close one...overtime is definately in the cards...
    Lions def. Vikings

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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    Vikings defeat Falcons (Falcons are a REAL bad team)
    Lions defeat Raiders (Raiders are a REAL bad team)
    Lions vs. Vikings is first benchmark game of the early season.
    I enjoyed the perspectives on this post.
    Adrian Peterson is a rookie who can make a difference.
    This guy has talent.
    Lions are improving...but Vikings win again!

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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    all systems go. time for T-Jack to step up. if he does then we are playoff bound for sure, barring injuries of course.

    like WaywardHoosier said, Lions are our first test. but hey, we already beat their QB!
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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    Nice post ND.

    You did fail to mention maybe the biggest problem we will face with Detroits defense and that is how are we going to block Shaun Rodgers and who will do it?

    If he is single teamed we will have problems all day long. We need to make sure we double him early and run to the outside so he has to run to get to the play. When he gets tired we can pound it inside but we won't do it when he is fresh.

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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    Nice post ND.

    You did fail to mention maybe the biggest problem we will face with Detroits defense and that is how are we going to block Shaun Rodgers and who will do it?

    If he is single teamed we will have problems all day long. We need to make sure we double him early and run to the outside so he has to run to get to the play. When he gets tired we can pound it inside but we won't do it when he is fresh.
    Rodgers was a non factor in the Oakland game.
    I thought about that and checked the Lion's Roster, and he is listed third on the depth chart.
    Granted he is pretty much a situational DT now, but still... If he can't perform against the Oakland Raider's OL, I am not too worried about him taking on our left side.
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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    Nice post ND.

    You did fail to mention maybe the biggest problem we will face with Detroits defense and that is how are we going to block Shaun Rodgers and who will do it?

    If he is single teamed we will have problems all day long. We need to make sure we double him early and run to the outside so he has to run to get to the play. When he gets tired we can pound it inside but we won't do it when he is fresh.
    Rodgers was a non factor in the Oakland game.
    I thought about that and checked the Lion's Roster, and he is listed third on the depth chart.
    Granted he is pretty much a situational DT now, but still... If he can't perform against the Oakland Raider's OL, I am not too worried about him taking on our left side.
    I watched the game and he was a factor from what I saw. They even singled him out to show how well he was doing

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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    Yup, probably a close game.
    We'll need to start connecting on those deep balls that have been just out of reach!
    And, sustain drives to keep their offense off the field and our Defense fresh!!
    But I do agree, we'll probably bring some pressure like we did to Joey, and might get some turnovers off of it.
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    Disclaimer: I am not a football expert.
    I am a fan.
    Feel free to ridicule and pick apart this post as you see fit...

    Keeping with tradition from last week(since it was so well received on the Atlanta boards
    :P), here is my breakdown for the Detroit game.
    I don't think this win will come as easily as last weeks.
    Unlike Atlanta, Detroit has an offense that can be scary at times.
    Luckily their defense is scary all the time (to them).
    It comes down to our good D against their good O, and our OK O against their crappy D.
    This will be a close game.

    Viking's rushing attack against Detroit's rushing D
    Edge: Vikings
    Oakland's Lamont Jordon was more or less shut down against Detroit.
    He finished with 70 yards on 15 carries, but over half of those yards came off from 4 carries, one of which was against a prevent defense.
    But I think that speaks more to Oakland's crappy OL than Detroit's run stop ability.
    In the second half, Oakland came out running, and picked up 25 yards on three back to back carries, so it is definately possible to run the call against Detroit.
    Oakland was playing from behind all game, so they eventually abandoned the running game, other wise I think we would have seen bigger numbers for Jordon.
    The left side of our line should be able to overpower Cody and Edwards, and AP will have another big day.

    Viking's passing attack against Detroit's passing D
    Edge: Vikings
    It is pretty rare that I will give us the edge in this category, at least this early in the season.
    But Detroit's secondary is god awful.
    McCown was able to go 30 of 40 for 313 yards against them for crying out loud.
    Curry had a great day receiving against Detroit, and Jordon looked good catching out the the backfield.
    Oakland was also able to generate quite a bit of YAC off from the short pass.
    I think this looks good for our passing attack, which will again be composed of short passes and flat passes.
    We should also be able to get Rice and TWill open against the Detroit secondary a few times, so that could take some of the pressure off from our run game.

    Viking's OL against Detroit's DL
    Edge: Detroit
    Detroit's LE White had a career day against Oakland.
    6 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 INT, and 2 forced fumbles.
    The guy was on fire.
    He will be lining up against our right side, which has looked better but is still suspect.
    On the other side of the line their RE Edwards recorded two sacks of his own.
    He will have more trouble against our left side, but is quick enough to get around McKinney if he gets the jumps.
    TJack needs to be aware, and make good decisions when pressured inside the pocket.

    Detroit's rushing attack against Viking's rushing D
    Edge: Vikings
    Tatum Bell had an OK day for Detroit - 15 carries for 87 yards.
    But he was running against the worst rushing D in the league with Oakland.
    He should have had twice that.
    And, when you consider that 24 of those yards came off from just one run, it shows that he wasn't on his game.
    I don't expect Detroit to attempt the run against us more than a dozen times on Sunday.
    They stand a much better chance through the air, so why bother.

    Detroit's passing attack against Vikings pass D
    Edge: Detroit
    Kitna passed all day long against Oakland, which had the #1 passing defense a year ago.
    Look for him to pass a lot against us on Sunday too, since their running game will go nowhere.
    Originally my biggest concern was Griffin, who will be lining up against Furrey and CJ all day.
    But when I watched the game, I was surprised to see that Kitna favors a short passing game, with 5 or 6 deep balls thrown in to keep the D honest.
    Out of the 36 passing attempts he made against Oakland, 28 were short passes.
    The good news is that Kitna made two bad mistakes when he was under pressure, both of which turned into interceptions.
    Each time, the defense took away the short passing routes, and Kitna threw into traffic.
    If we can get pressure on Kitna like we did on Harrington, we will shut their air attack down.
    We will also need to rely on our offense to control the time of possession. The less time the Detroit offense spends on the field, the better.

    Detroit's OL against Viking's DL
    Edge: Vikings
    Oakland couldn't get much pressure on Kitna, but when they did he panicked.
    Our DL is leagues ahead of Oakland's, and given Detroit's predisposition to throwing the ball, I expect to see Robison (my new favorite player) in a lot more as a situational pass rusher.
    The key to Sunday's game lies in our ability to get to Kitna.
    I can't stress this enough, because with his receiving weapons, he will put up big numbers if we give him any time.
    Luckily, I don't think their OL can stop us, especially when we keep rotating fresh legs in an out of our defensive front.

    Special Teams
    Edge: Draw
    Hanson went 3 for 3.
    Longwell went 1 for 1.
    Average punt return/kick return was about the same for both teams.
    I am happy to say that our special teams looked a lot better on Sunday than they did in preseason.

    Intangibles
    Edge: Draw
    We are playing at Ford Field, but that is a lot better place to play than Lambeau, where TJ got his first start.
    The Detroit fans, if they even sell out the game, are not known for being loud, and if Detroit goes down they can get downright quiet.
    Anyone know when the Detroit fans are planning their annual "Fire Millen Walkout"?
    The biggest intangible here is the underestimation of either team.
    Both teams are coming off from big wins against less than stellar opponents.
    If either team expects week 2 to be as easy as week 1, then they are in for a surprise.

    Prediction: Like it or not, this will be a close game that will cause blood pressure to rise in both cities.
    In the end, the Vikes will pull it out, 27-21 in OT.
    I agree with all of this except Vikings OL against Detroits DL. I think Atlantas DL is better than Detroits and we did not give up a sack.

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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    Nice post ND.

    You did fail to mention maybe the biggest problem we will face with Detroits defense and that is how are we going to block Shaun Rodgers and who will do it?

    If he is single teamed we will have problems all day long. We need to make sure we double him early and run to the outside so he has to run to get to the play. When he gets tired we can pound it inside but we won't do it when he is fresh.
    Rodgers was a non factor in the Oakland game.
    I thought about that and checked the Lion's Roster, and he is listed third on the depth chart.
    Granted he is pretty much a situational DT now, but still... If he can't perform against the Oakland Raider's OL, I am not too worried about him taking on our left side.
    I watched the game and he was a factor from what I saw. They even singled him out to show how well he was doing
    Really?
    I didn't catch the entire game, but grabbed about a quarter's worth and checked highlights and stats.
    He finished the game with only 1 tackle and no assists.
    Most of the pressure I saw from the Lions was coming from the outside too.
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: My breakdowns for the Detroit Game

    "marstc09" wrote:
    I agree with all of this except Vikings OL against Detroits DL. I think Atlantas DL is better than Detroits and we did not give up a sack.
    Atlanta's DL looks better on paper, but I am not sold on them.
    And White had an amazing day for Detroit.
    Granted, he was going up against Oakland's OL, but still... After a game like that he is going to be pumped up in his first home game.
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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