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    Musgrave: Vikings 'not at all pleased' with passing game

    Vikings 'not at all pleased' with passing game, Bill Musgrave says

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    Vikings can run but can't throw play-action

    Vikings can run but can't throw play-action - NFC North Blog - ESPN

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    Musgrave: Vikings 'not at all pleased' with passing game

    So basically we still have the KAO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Floyd View Post
    So basically we still have the KAO.
    That comparison always kills me. Musgrave's the only similarity between Musgrave's offense and Childress's KAO is that both of them used the short game to set up the long game. Or at least tried to. That and neither one of them seems to be particularly effective.

    Other than that, they are fundamentally different - Musgrave uses a much purer form of the WCO than Childress ever did.
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    I hear the talk, let's see if we can walk the walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    Ponder has the worst fake hand off in the NFL. He simply sticks the ball out, nowhere near the running back, and instantly pulls it back in, while dropping back. It fools nobody and turns play action into a simple drop back pass.
    Maybe they need to work on the fundamentals of play action as a starting point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smegmavike View Post
    Ponder has the worst fake hand off in the NFL. He simply sticks the ball out, nowhere near the running back, and instantly pulls it back in, while dropping back. It fools nobody and turns play action into a simple drop back pass.
    Maybe they need to work on the fundamentals of play action as a starting point.
    Yea, he really could work on selling it a bit better. At least stick the ball into a RB and take the ball out of view for a moment. Being a yard or two away from the RB and just sticking it out there fools no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NodakPaul View Post
    That comparison always kills me. Musgrave's the only similarity between Musgrave's offense and Childress's KAO is that both of them used the short game to set up the long game. Or at least tried to. That and neither one of them seems to be particularly effective.

    Other than that, they are fundamentally different - Musgrave uses a much purer form of the WCO than Childress ever did.

    Childress/Bevell had their QB's dink & dunk, while Musgrave mostly has Ponder dink.

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    Musgrave: Vikings 'not at all pleased' with passing game

    Memo to Musgrave: neither are the Viking fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by smegmavike View Post
    Ponder has the worst fake hand off in the NFL. He simply sticks the ball out, nowhere near the running back, and instantly pulls it back in, while dropping back. It fools nobody and turns play action into a simple drop back pass.
    Maybe they need to work on the fundamentals of play action as a starting point.
    I think the backs should work on selling the PA a bit better too. AP goes immediately into block or route mode after the fake instead of pretending like he has the ball.

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